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I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

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  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

    Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

    Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

    symtrkl@anarres.familyS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #18

    @danirabbit There's the whole performative aspect of it too. Like, I tried switching to DuckDuckGo, and switched back to Google because the search results, which are just Microslop Bing as I understand it, we're objectively worse. No big announcement, just installed udm14 and went on with my life. The only reason anyone knows I switched to Debian is because I'm a huge nerd and like talking about my computer crimes. (And making "lesbian" puns.)

    And maybe I'm overly cynical, since "I switched to this significantly less affordable thing which is morally superior" is just not an option for me, but I think that is why people don't do vegan plus bacon, because you can't brag about it.

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    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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      #19

      @danirabbit@mastodon.online I think this is the most sensible recommendation I've read in a long time.

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      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

        I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

        People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

        So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

        causticmsngo@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #20

        @danirabbit So right.

        The funny thing I've learned is, you might *think* you could never live without some food, but the more you switch your diet to plant based the less you crave or sometimes even want animal based foods.

        I used to think I could never give up steak or bacon. I no longer desire either & can't even remember the last time I had them.

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          #21

          @thomholwerda @danirabbit I mean, red meat is a class 2a carcinogen & preserved meat like bacon is a class 1 carcinogen.

          So, cutting back isn't just good the planet & kinder to our non-human cohabitants, it lowers your cancer risk.

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          • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

            I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

            People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

            So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

            max@poliverso.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #22

            @danirabbit

            I agree with you, when it comes to sedimented habits not always the "big bang" is the right way. It can be for some of us but not for all.

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            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

              I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

              People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

              So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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              #23

              @danirabbit Bacon is great because it adds a lot of flavor even when used in small amounts.

              Bacon should not be the main part of a meal; it is a spice.

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              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                raptor@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #24

                @danirabbit vegan recipes plus bacon is actually a surprisingly good food 💯

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                • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                  I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                  People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                  So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                  taylor@social.axfive.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #25

                  @danirabbit The last 10% is the hardest bit, but the first 90% is the most effective. "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good", as the saying goes.

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                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                    #26

                    @danirabbit Hooray for small positive changes! Yes!

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                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                      jered@metasocial.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #27

                      @danirabbit I love this. There’s precedent too — I know lots of people who are kosher+bacon.

                      Really, you can also just … commit to eating more vegetables. Have a steak once in a while as a treat! Just think about your goals in meals rather than being on autopilot.

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                      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                        I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                        People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                        So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                        sordidamok@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #28

                        @danirabbit So weird that it's bacon. I've been vegetarian for 27 years and I don't miss bacon at all. There are many forms of meat that I remember being a lot better.

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                        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                          beecycling@wandering.shopB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #29

                          @danirabbit I'm sort of like that, although it's vegan plus eggs, cheese and yoghurt. (Cheese and yoghurt are hard to find vegan versions of and eggs I just flipping love.) Otherwise I only very rarely eat meat or fish and I use oat milk.

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                          • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                            I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                            People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                            So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                            shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #30

                            @danirabbit my parents would never stop eating meat, cheese or milk. However they found a vegan butter replacement and use that all the time now.

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                            • beecycling@wandering.shopB beecycling@wandering.shop

                              @danirabbit I'm sort of like that, although it's vegan plus eggs, cheese and yoghurt. (Cheese and yoghurt are hard to find vegan versions of and eggs I just flipping love.) Otherwise I only very rarely eat meat or fish and I use oat milk.

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                              #31

                              @danirabbit Which I know, sounds more like vegetarian, but I suppose vegetarian is vegan + anyway.

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                              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                                decathorpe@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #32

                                @danirabbit yes! making small steps in the right direction is still better than being daunted and not ending up moving at all 🙌🏻

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                                • raptor@infosec.exchangeR raptor@infosec.exchange

                                  @danirabbit vegan recipes plus bacon is actually a surprisingly good food 💯

                                  clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #33

                                  historical rhyme; lots of northerly peasant food is vegan with only a little bacon and buttermilk because even if they could raise meat and dairy they had to *sell* most of that -- little lardoons of bacon, and the buttermilk left over after making butter for market, is the home food

                                  Also delicious so

                                  @raptor @danirabbit

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                                  • chewie@mammut.gogreenit.netC chewie@mammut.gogreenit.net

                                    @danirabbit Exactly.

                                    It has taken me a long time to be "mostly" vegetarian.
                                    People change their diet quickly, and then complain and whinge and don't stick to it.

                                    Of course that's going to be hard, unless you've got serious will-power.

                                    First I started eating veggie stuff at work for lunch as it was really nice, but still having "normal" meals at night with my family.

                                    Over the years I ate less and less meat, and found good alternatives (some even my meat-eating other half likes).

                                    I found some good cheese alternatives.
                                    I found a nice tea that doesn't require milk.
                                    I use plant milks for pretty much everything.

                                    I thought i'd never give up bacon, but I don't really miss it. I don't think i've had bacon for more than a year now.
                                    I can smell it when other people are cooking it, but it doesn't really bother me.

                                    I'm still far from being vegan, but i'm getting close....

                                    The last thing I need to cut out is butter and cheese.

                                    Vegan food has come a long way from the 80s and 90s when it was just crappy dry "nut roasts" and things like that.

                                    There's no excuse not to at least eat more vegan stuff. There's so much choice now.

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                                    #34

                                    @chewie @danirabbit Learning how to use spices also helps tremendously. I recently discovered lemon ginger rice. Chickpeas take spices a lot like chicken. Curries, tikka masala, vindaloo, North African tagines, and more generally do really well with chickpeas instead of meat.

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                                    • bob_zim@infosec.exchangeB bob_zim@infosec.exchange

                                      @chewie @danirabbit Learning how to use spices also helps tremendously. I recently discovered lemon ginger rice. Chickpeas take spices a lot like chicken. Curries, tikka masala, vindaloo, North African tagines, and more generally do really well with chickpeas instead of meat.

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                                      #35

                                      @bob_zim @danirabbit very true!

                                      I love veggie curries. They don't need to be "hot" spicy, but they taste really nice.
                                      We have a good selection of takeaways and restaurants locally, as we have a relatively large Indian population.

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                                      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                        Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

                                        Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

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                                        #36

                                        @danirabbit
                                        I'm getting there. Still got Android on this phone because it was cheap and there's no AOSP based OS for it. And still watch YouTube (via FreeTube) for entertainment.

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                                        • finalgirl@blackqueer.lifeF finalgirl@blackqueer.life

                                          @danirabbit I definitely think we need a lot more “harm reduction” and a lot less “if you are not perfect you are the enemy.”

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                                          #37

                                          @FinalGirl @danirabbit Or "ham" reduction, in this case.

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