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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
    Turns out that was on purpose

    raktheundead@vmst.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @ocean: Ed Zitron wrote comprehensively on the people responsible.

    https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

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    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
      Turns out that was on purpose

      stellar@mk.absturztau.beS This user is from outside of this forum
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      stellar@mk.absturztau.be
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #5

      @ocean@raru.re i'm not surprised, but i didn't noticed since i use alternatives from google since a long time ​​

      prisixia@mk.absturztau.beP dalias@hachyderm.ioD 2 Replies Last reply
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      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
        Turns out that was on purpose

        alanthecampbell@techhub.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        alanthecampbell@techhub.social
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #6

        @ocean bunch...of...f**kers.

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        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
          Turns out that was on purpose

          itamarst@hachyderm.ioI This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @ocean As predicted by Brin and Page: "we expect that advertising funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers." (The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine, 1998 - http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html)

          khleedril@cyberplace.socialK aarbrk@mstdn.mxA hawaii@mastodon.worldH 3 Replies Last reply
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          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
            Turns out that was on purpose

            samuel@libremercs.devS This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #8

            @ocean Just as expected, Google the company who abandoned "don't be evil", is evil. By the way can you link the source?

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            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
              Turns out that was on purpose

              wonka@chaos.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
              wonka@chaos.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
              wonka@chaos.social
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #9

              @ocean If that is not enshittification as defined by @pluralistic...

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              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                Turns out that was on purpose

                zakalwe@plasmatrap.comZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                zakalwe@plasmatrap.com
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #10

                @ocean@raru.re Active enshittification.

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                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                  Turns out that was on purpose

                  cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC This user is from outside of this forum
                  cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC This user is from outside of this forum
                  cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.com
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #11

                  @ocean reinforcing what a lot of people have been saying: Google is an advertisement company. (do you have the link to the full text, please?)

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                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                    Turns out that was on purpose

                    paradox@raru.reP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #12

                    @ocean I need to understand what people are searching for and why the first page doesn't help them.
                    Cuz the only time I can't find something is because I don't really expect to find anything. Either cuz it's a very niche question or earlier when I tried to get a pdf/ebook of Harold and the Purple Crayon (still copyrighted I think, no straightforward download).

                    Like I believe people are having a hard time. I just can't tell from my experience.

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                    • stellar@mk.absturztau.beS stellar@mk.absturztau.be

                      @ocean@raru.re i'm not surprised, but i didn't noticed since i use alternatives from google since a long time ​​

                      prisixia@mk.absturztau.beP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      prisixia@mk.absturztau.be
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #13

                      @Stellar @ocean@raru.re The library

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                      • kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @ocean TF2 Heavy Voice "Not big surprise!"

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                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                          Turns out that was on purpose

                          christianschwaegerl@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #15

                          @ocean @hjoest Would be great if you could add the link to the source, thanks

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                          • christianschwaegerl@mastodon.socialC christianschwaegerl@mastodon.social

                            @ocean @hjoest Would be great if you could add the link to the source, thanks

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                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #16

                            @ocean @hjoest @christianschwaegerl came here to say this

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                            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                              Turns out that was on purpose

                              em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #17

                              @ocean
                              I learned about this strategy back in the early 2010’s which has made me more deliberate when I put in any searches. At the time I was shocked (I was a teenager then)but I quickly learned how to work around the system. I remember when searching had to be only a couple words at most to work, but now you can use whole phrases, this helps a lot with being more specific about what I want. But yes, it’s sad it’s a marketing strategy to keep people searching instead of “finding what you want”

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                              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                Turns out that was on purpose

                                legion495@mk.absturztau.beL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                legion495@mk.absturztau.be
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #18

                                @ocean@raru.re I gave up on Google Search like 2 years ago.
                                I am not surprised.

                                Still fond of the memories when you immediately found what you looked for.

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

                                  postie@possum.cityP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #19

                                  @ocean@raru.re
                                  if anyone else wanted to read the rest of the artaicle, the screenshot is from the following article:
                                  https://journalrecord.com/2025/02/20/is-google-making-search-worse-to-sell-more-ads/

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                                  • em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social

                                    @ocean
                                    I learned about this strategy back in the early 2010’s which has made me more deliberate when I put in any searches. At the time I was shocked (I was a teenager then)but I quickly learned how to work around the system. I remember when searching had to be only a couple words at most to work, but now you can use whole phrases, this helps a lot with being more specific about what I want. But yes, it’s sad it’s a marketing strategy to keep people searching instead of “finding what you want”

                                    mattesilver@101010.plM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    mattesilver@101010.pl
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #20

                                    @em_and_future_cats @ocean

                                    next up, selling people more medicine is better for big pharma than actually curing people

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                                    • christianschwaegerl@mastodon.socialC christianschwaegerl@mastodon.social

                                      @ocean @hjoest Would be great if you could add the link to the source, thanks

                                      aperture@snug.moeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      aperture@snug.moe
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #21

                                      @christianschwaegerl @ocean @hjoest www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20recent%20court%20documents%20showed%20that%20Google%27s%20internal%20testing%20demonstrated%20that%20significantly%20worse%20search%20results%20would%20not%20harm%20their%20business%20operations.%20This%20apparent%20immunity%20to%20quality%20concerns%20stems%20from%20the%20company%27s%20dominant%20market%20position%2C%20which%20the%20recent%20federal%20court%20ruling%20addressed.%22

                                      - carrie

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                                      • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

                                        @ocean I need to understand what people are searching for and why the first page doesn't help them.
                                        Cuz the only time I can't find something is because I don't really expect to find anything. Either cuz it's a very niche question or earlier when I tried to get a pdf/ebook of Harold and the Purple Crayon (still copyrighted I think, no straightforward download).

                                        Like I believe people are having a hard time. I just can't tell from my experience.

                                        heptasean@social.tchncs.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #22

                                        @Paradox @ocean Same! I *can* somehow tell it getting less good over the years – some paid results to ignore here, some only seldomly helpful AI result there, … – but all in all it is still useful enough for me to this day. Do I include enough keywords in my searches? Do I only research topics that are not *that* prone to bad results? Don't know. 🤷‍♂️

                                        (It's not always on the first page, though. I tend to ignore quite a lot of results based on the preview.)

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                                        • mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #23

                                          @ocean
                                          Ha! Knew it!
                                          Not long ago I pointed out to someone that in a way, worse search results meant more time scrolling and ergo more ad impressions, so it wouldn't at all surprise me if they quit bothering to improve.

                                          Fuckers. I'd assumed a sort of passive acceptance and laziness had led to degraded quality, but the fact that it was actually designed that way means there should be a "recall" of their product and they need to compensate me for all the wasted time before I finally gave up and went to DDG (which, IMO, has dropped significantly in quality since I started using it 🤔 ).

                                          Thing is, look at ANY online business that makes money off of ad impressions and there is an immediately obvious incentive to find ways to increase your scrolling time on the site. Not all are scummy grifters, of course, but when the incentive is there, someone is going to take advantage of it.

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