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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • m0xee@nosh0b10.m0xee.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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    m0xee@nosh0b10.m0xee.net
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    #187
    @Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com @ocean@raru.re
    Noticed that too! I'm keeping no cookies — they are getting cleaned up as soon as I close the tab, Google should know nothing about the region. The IP addresses I'm using are detected either as US or as Polish in all the GeoIP databases, and yet Español… where did THAT come from? 😂
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    • cwg1231@defcon.socialC cwg1231@defcon.social

      @lispi314 @Stellar @prisixia @ocean I'm certainly not disputing that. However, practically speaking, most (American) libraries use Libby/Overdrive which is super easy to rip epubs from.

      stellar@mk.absturztau.beS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #188

      @lispi314@udongein.xyz @prisixia@mk.absturztau.be @ocean@raru.re @cwg1231@defcon.social have you guys heard about books?

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      • stellar@mk.absturztau.beS stellar@mk.absturztau.be

        @lispi314@udongein.xyz @prisixia@mk.absturztau.be @ocean@raru.re @cwg1231@defcon.social have you guys heard about books?

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        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #189
        @Stellar @prisixia @cwg1231 @ocean Inconvenient things to duplicate, it was an actual job for a reason.

        Difficult to access remotely as well. Rather problematic with a pandemic (to say nothing of unrelated logistical hurdles). It wouldn't be so bad if institutional ageism didn't make so many libraries age-gate postal loaning & returns behind being elderly or disabled with papers to prove it (accessibility challenges? What's that? 😒), when they provide it at all.

        All the things I name have solutions yes, but they also are not applied for reasons unknown to me.
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        • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
          @Stellar @prisixia @cwg1231 @ocean Inconvenient things to duplicate, it was an actual job for a reason.

          Difficult to access remotely as well. Rather problematic with a pandemic (to say nothing of unrelated logistical hurdles). It wouldn't be so bad if institutional ageism didn't make so many libraries age-gate postal loaning & returns behind being elderly or disabled with papers to prove it (accessibility challenges? What's that? 😒), when they provide it at all.

          All the things I name have solutions yes, but they also are not applied for reasons unknown to me.
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          #190

          @prisixia@mk.absturztau.be @cwg1231@defcon.social @ocean@raru.re @lispi314@udongein.xyz if the library doesn't have a book you want to borrow or copy anna's archive probably has it

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          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
            Turns out that was on purpose

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            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #191

            @ocean Do you have a link to that info on Google that you can share? Thanks in advance.

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            • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

              @prisixia @ocean @Stellar No libraries anymore, at least not in the USA. Libraries are also much slower to update information & don't have the obscure topics alot of people look up, such as how to install pyssnshit (everyone's favorite python script), or the history of the use of sewing machines in Australia. Any libraries that are still operational are going to be horrifically underfunded & not even have a card index to search them with, & with certain governments restricting access to certain written knowledge (Germany 1940s, USA 2020s), alot of very important things that libraries have are about to disappear. Libraries may have been the backup plan when the Internet failed at one point, but now the Internet is the backup plan for libraries failing, but the most important parts of the Internet are failing at the same time. I have not heard well of libraries in other countries either. For most places in the world it may be fine, but for many they aren't a solution.

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              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #192

              @jackemled @prisixia @ocean @Stellar

              The US has one of the strongest network of public library systems in the world.

              There have been forced closures and reduced funding around the country, yeah; but thousands of public libraries in the US continue to exist. Some with increased local support to keep up with rising costs. Almost all libraries in this century use digital catalogs based off database matching for searches and have staff that will pick up a phone to call contacts for obscure resources like for specialty books at universities. Many have suscriptions to journals and teaching services. Visiting a library regularly increases knowledge sharing as the staff, patrons, and event hosts swap info from shared interests.

              I get the feeling, tho, that you're talking about a near future where the federal government has taken over the state goverments and its companies have corrupted all digital systems? Or, what are you describing?

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              • shadowfals@toot.catS shadowfals@toot.cat

                @jackemled @prisixia @ocean @Stellar

                The US has one of the strongest network of public library systems in the world.

                There have been forced closures and reduced funding around the country, yeah; but thousands of public libraries in the US continue to exist. Some with increased local support to keep up with rising costs. Almost all libraries in this century use digital catalogs based off database matching for searches and have staff that will pick up a phone to call contacts for obscure resources like for specialty books at universities. Many have suscriptions to journals and teaching services. Visiting a library regularly increases knowledge sharing as the staff, patrons, and event hosts swap info from shared interests.

                I get the feeling, tho, that you're talking about a near future where the federal government has taken over the state goverments and its companies have corrupted all digital systems? Or, what are you describing?

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                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #193

                @shadowfals @prisixia @ocean @Stellar Maybe I'm not seeing it because I'm in a very conservative area & constantly hearing about threats to city & state libraries in other places. In my home town too our libraries weren't great & never got anything digital besides one desktop computer meant for accessing one state research paper library & nothing else. I haven't been home for a few years so I'm unsure how they're doing now, but I doubt any books about gender or sexuality are still there with the local politics. Libraries will always be important resources, but books are fundamentally fragile devices that can't be easily duplicated & distributed out of control like digital information.

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                • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                  @shadowfals @prisixia @ocean @Stellar Maybe I'm not seeing it because I'm in a very conservative area & constantly hearing about threats to city & state libraries in other places. In my home town too our libraries weren't great & never got anything digital besides one desktop computer meant for accessing one state research paper library & nothing else. I haven't been home for a few years so I'm unsure how they're doing now, but I doubt any books about gender or sexuality are still there with the local politics. Libraries will always be important resources, but books are fundamentally fragile devices that can't be easily duplicated & distributed out of control like digital information.

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                  #194

                  @shadowfals @prisixia @ocean @Stellar It's more like the present & my worries for the very near future. The Library of Alexandria was burned by the Romans, & I don't see why it can't happen again to any library, especially since it has happened again numerous times.

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                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #195

                    @ocean Indian CEOs. Every time.

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                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                      Turns out that was on purpose

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                      idoclosecuts@mstdn.ca
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #196

                      @ocean On my quick scroll through the replies, I don’t see anyone mention this article; Zitron tells the whole story;

                      https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

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                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                        Turns out that was on purpose

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                        ginaintheburg@mastodon.world
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #197

                        @ocean

                        No surprise there.

                        And that is why I keep DuckDuckGo at the ready. I can't tell you how many times I've found what I need there after coming up empty handed with Google.

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                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                          Turns out that was on purpose

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                          #198

                          I've noticed this, too.

                          Sometimes, I'm getting Google results that don't even mention my search term.

                          Your post convinced me to move away from Google, but I still need to find a new search engine.

                          #google @ocean

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                          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                            Turns out that was on purpose

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                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #199

                            @ocean it backfires because I've since moved to other engines and ai

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                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #200

                              @realestninja @ocean thanks👍

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                              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                Turns out that was on purpose

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                                farnkraut@digitalcourage.social
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #201

                                @ocean @calisti I hate this timeline 😭 I just want a decent search. I don’t find alternatives (most often relying on Google or bing results) to be all that better. Pls someone capable do something 😕

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

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                                  gladso@mastodon.social
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #202

                                  @ocean I have avoided using Google search for years, simply because it turned to shit.

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                                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #203

                                    @ocean have you read this article?

                                    https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

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                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #204

                                      @adavid @ocean The actual article quoted is here: https://journalrecord.com/2025/02/20/is-google-making-search-worse-to-sell-more-ads/

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                                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                        Turns out that was on purpose

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                                        #205

                                        @ocean they literally just did the supermarket model with a computer. what will they think of next.

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                                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                          Turns out that was on purpose

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                                          #206
                                          @ocean and now they can more easily force us to engage with the stupid chatbot because it's the only one getting the good results
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