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  • folfdk@helvede.netF folfdk@helvede.net

    @simonjust

    And perhaps https://waterfox.com

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    @folfdk @simonjust I also need to change away from FF.

    I was trying to figure out Waterfox, but it's very secretive about its governance and community. It seems to be run by mostly just 1 person who's active on Hackernews and LinkedIn. Which might be fine for a small software library, but a bit questionable for a full browser.

    LibreWolf is in start contrast to that, looks much more like a flourishing community.

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    • simonjust@mstdn.dkS simonjust@mstdn.dk

      Mozilla Firefox alternatives to check out:

      Librewolf: https://librewolf.net
      Vivaldi: https://vivaldi.com
      Floorp: https://floorp.app

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      @simonjust Er vi kun glade for noget, der er forket fra Firefox, og ikke Chromium?

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      • simonjust@mstdn.dkS simonjust@mstdn.dk

        Mozilla Firefox alternatives to check out:

        Librewolf: https://librewolf.net
        Vivaldi: https://vivaldi.com
        Floorp: https://floorp.app

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        #6

        @simonjust Good suggestions. Zen Browser seems decent too? But the most privacy-centric of those seems to be Librewolf, and I like that.

        Also looking forward to trying out Ladybird and Servo.

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        • tokeriis@helvede.netT tokeriis@helvede.net

          @simonjust Er vi kun glade for noget, der er forket fra Firefox, og ikke Chromium?

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          @tokeriis @simonjust Det synes jeg. Man understøtter Googles omfattende browser-monopol ved at vælge en Chromium-baseret browser.

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          • marcusxms@helvede.netM marcusxms@helvede.net

            @tokeriis @simonjust Det synes jeg. Man understøtter Googles omfattende browser-monopol ved at vælge en Chromium-baseret browser.

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            @tokeriis @simonjust Men der er også Servo og Ladybird på vej, og så er der selvfølgelig de Webkit-baserede, som GNOME Web (tidligere Epihany) og Safari.

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            • marcusxms@helvede.netM marcusxms@helvede.net

              @tokeriis @simonjust Men der er også Servo og Ladybird på vej, og så er der selvfølgelig de Webkit-baserede, som GNOME Web (tidligere Epihany) og Safari.

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              #9

              @marcusxms @simonjust I princippet er jeg enig. Jeg ville elske, hvis ikke det var Google der drev de facto standarderne gennem deres semi-monopol.

              Man kan selvfølgelig diskutere, om man ikke hjælper Googles browsermonopol ved at forke Firefox, som i forvejen har en lille markedsandel?

              PS Orion fra Kagi er også webkit-baseret.

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              • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

                @folfdk @simonjust I also need to change away from FF.

                I was trying to figure out Waterfox, but it's very secretive about its governance and community. It seems to be run by mostly just 1 person who's active on Hackernews and LinkedIn. Which might be fine for a small software library, but a bit questionable for a full browser.

                LibreWolf is in start contrast to that, looks much more like a flourishing community.

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                @benjaoming @simonjust

                That's a good point Benjamin, I was looking for Android alternatives and librewolf is only desktop so far if I understand correctly?

                Hadn't looked at governance

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                • simonjust@mstdn.dkS simonjust@mstdn.dk

                  Mozilla Firefox alternatives to check out:

                  Librewolf: https://librewolf.net
                  Vivaldi: https://vivaldi.com
                  Floorp: https://floorp.app

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                  @simonjust I have been testing Falkon https://falkon.org recently—it is usable, but not without problems. I miss some of the plugins that were available in FF. After playing videos, I often find that the CPU load maxes out for several seconds and the machine is unresponsive (it's a small laptop with limited resources). I find that it crashes more often than FF, but not so often that it's impossible to use.

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                  • folfdk@helvede.netF folfdk@helvede.net

                    @benjaoming @simonjust

                    That's a good point Benjamin, I was looking for Android alternatives and librewolf is only desktop so far if I understand correctly?

                    Hadn't looked at governance

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                    @folfdk @benjaoming @simonjust I'm keeping Firefox for now. I'm not convinced any of the other projects have the capacity to work on a *full* web browser. It helps to run Firefox ESR (extended support release) as the less nice features haven't landed there yet.

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                    • tokeriis@helvede.netT tokeriis@helvede.net

                      @simonjust Er vi kun glade for noget, der er forket fra Firefox, og ikke Chromium?

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                      @tokeriis Nej, Vivaldi er Chromium-baseret (som @pmakholm også skriver) - og kører ganske fortrinligt - også på Mac 🙂

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                      • mrmanor@social.data.coopM mrmanor@social.data.coop

                        @simonjust I have been testing Falkon https://falkon.org recently—it is usable, but not without problems. I miss some of the plugins that were available in FF. After playing videos, I often find that the CPU load maxes out for several seconds and the machine is unresponsive (it's a small laptop with limited resources). I find that it crashes more often than FF, but not so often that it's impossible to use.

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                        @MrManor Yes, that is sadly my experience with Falkon too. But it has been a while since I tried it, so I'll give it another try.

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                        • simonjust@mstdn.dkS simonjust@mstdn.dk

                          @MrManor Yes, that is sadly my experience with Falkon too. But it has been a while since I tried it, so I'll give it another try.

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                          @simonjust @MrManor I've started dipping my toes in LibreWolf. Not horrible so far.

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                          • saustrup@mstdn.dkS saustrup@mstdn.dk

                            @simonjust @MrManor I've started dipping my toes in LibreWolf. Not horrible so far.

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                            @saustrup @MrManor It runs pretty great, yeah. I'm somewhat convinced it opens even faster than Firefox, but I haven't done any measuring, though! 😀

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                            • simonjust@mstdn.dkS simonjust@mstdn.dk

                              @saustrup @MrManor It runs pretty great, yeah. I'm somewhat convinced it opens even faster than Firefox, but I haven't done any measuring, though! 😀

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                              @simonjust @saustrup Yes, I have the same impression. It feels lighter on a labtop with limited resources like mine. However, I'm not sure if that's just because it's Qt-based and I'm running KDE anyway, so maybe they share some resources.

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                              • simonjust@mstdn.dkS simonjust@mstdn.dk

                                @saustrup @MrManor It runs pretty great, yeah. I'm somewhat convinced it opens even faster than Firefox, but I haven't done any measuring, though! 😀

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                                @simonjust @MrManor Also stumbled across this, which might make it even faster, more secure or whatever, based on what configuration file you pick: https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox

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                                • mrmanor@social.data.coopM mrmanor@social.data.coop

                                  @simonjust @saustrup Yes, I have the same impression. It feels lighter on a labtop with limited resources like mine. However, I'm not sure if that's just because it's Qt-based and I'm running KDE anyway, so maybe they share some resources.

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                                  #19

                                  @MrManor @saustrup Could be the culprit, yes, some of the KDE libraries are perhaps already loaded into RAM, when your OS boots.

                                  I'm on GNOME and opted for the flatpak, so it needs to load up the whole bunch 😀

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                                  • saustrup@mstdn.dkS saustrup@mstdn.dk

                                    @simonjust @MrManor Also stumbled across this, which might make it even faster, more secure or whatever, based on what configuration file you pick: https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox

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                                    @saustrup @MrManor Oh, excellent!

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                                    • simonjust@mstdn.dkS simonjust@mstdn.dk

                                      @MrManor @saustrup Could be the culprit, yes, some of the KDE libraries are perhaps already loaded into RAM, when your OS boots.

                                      I'm on GNOME and opted for the flatpak, so it needs to load up the whole bunch 😀

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                                      #21

                                      @simonjust @MrManor @saustrup
                                      Librewolf it not based on qt or kde, it is same ui library as firefox. It may be faster because they removed/disabled some of the bloat.

                                      I use librewolf too, on kde, and zenbrowser, which is another great firefox based browser 🙂

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                                      • simonjust@mstdn.dkS simonjust@mstdn.dk

                                        @tokeriis Nej, Vivaldi er Chromium-baseret (som @pmakholm også skriver) - og kører ganske fortrinligt - også på Mac 🙂

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                                        @simonjust @pmakholm Nå ja, det overså jeg, my bad!

                                        Så vil jeg også anbefale Helium: https://helium.computer

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                                        • reynir@social.data.coopR reynir@social.data.coop

                                          @folfdk @benjaoming @simonjust I'm keeping Firefox for now. I'm not convinced any of the other projects have the capacity to work on a *full* web browser. It helps to run Firefox ESR (extended support release) as the less nice features haven't landed there yet.

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                                          @reynir @folfdk @simonjust I was hoping a major Linux distro would form an opinion and figure out which replacement of Firefox to go for.

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