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  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
    petergleick@fediscience.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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    A picture I took last night.

    Two things can be true.
    1. Gas prices are skyrocketing because of Trump's illegal war and that's bad for consumers and the economy.
    2. Gas prices should be higher because their cost doesn't include the massive environmental and #climate damages fossil fuels cause.

    bongolian@mstdn.socialB dawilson999@sfba.socialD notecharlie@social.bigcavemaps.comN okurth@mas.toO annietime@sfba.socialA 6 Replies Last reply
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    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

      A picture I took last night.

      Two things can be true.
      1. Gas prices are skyrocketing because of Trump's illegal war and that's bad for consumers and the economy.
      2. Gas prices should be higher because their cost doesn't include the massive environmental and #climate damages fossil fuels cause.

      bongolian@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
      bongolian@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @petergleick That's right. The high prices are benefitting a corrupt few: fossil fuel oligarchs, the head of the current regime and his cronies. If they were high due to taxation, they could benefit wide groups of people if the taxes were for the benefit of counteracting climate change.

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      • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

        A picture I took last night.

        Two things can be true.
        1. Gas prices are skyrocketing because of Trump's illegal war and that's bad for consumers and the economy.
        2. Gas prices should be higher because their cost doesn't include the massive environmental and #climate damages fossil fuels cause.

        dawilson999@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        dawilson999@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @petergleick If it included all the environmental and social costs only billionaires could afford it.

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        • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

          A picture I took last night.

          Two things can be true.
          1. Gas prices are skyrocketing because of Trump's illegal war and that's bad for consumers and the economy.
          2. Gas prices should be higher because their cost doesn't include the massive environmental and #climate damages fossil fuels cause.

          notecharlie@social.bigcavemaps.comN This user is from outside of this forum
          notecharlie@social.bigcavemaps.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @petergleick This has been my position for a while. For gas prices to start to change people's behavior they need to be in the $8-10/gal range. I'm not sure that that's the right price to account for the social cost, but that's when people will start changing their behavior.

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          • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

            A picture I took last night.

            Two things can be true.
            1. Gas prices are skyrocketing because of Trump's illegal war and that's bad for consumers and the economy.
            2. Gas prices should be higher because their cost doesn't include the massive environmental and #climate damages fossil fuels cause.

            okurth@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
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            @petergleick I agree. But oil companies should not keep the profits, instead they need to be spent on climate change mitigation and renewable energy progress.

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            • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

              A picture I took last night.

              Two things can be true.
              1. Gas prices are skyrocketing because of Trump's illegal war and that's bad for consumers and the economy.
              2. Gas prices should be higher because their cost doesn't include the massive environmental and #climate damages fossil fuels cause.

              annietime@sfba.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @petergleick I’m, no expert just an ordinary woman perusing through and I’m struck by the whopping price of diesel. How will truck drivers absorb such cost? Let me guess….higher prices coming our way very shortly?

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              • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                A picture I took last night.

                Two things can be true.
                1. Gas prices are skyrocketing because of Trump's illegal war and that's bad for consumers and the economy.
                2. Gas prices should be higher because their cost doesn't include the massive environmental and #climate damages fossil fuels cause.

                mroach@ublog.mroach.comM This user is from outside of this forum
                mroach@ublog.mroach.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @petergleick Agreed. That’s what we have over here in Europe. Current average E10 price here in Denmark converts to $10.25/US gallon and $10.67 for diesel.

                We also have annual taxes on cars based on emissions. Parking is also expensive and inconvenient as relatively little space is allocated to it.

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