While the Right has been telling women to fear what they call ‘men in changing rooms’, girls and young women have actually been marginalised and threatened by boys and men in public, on the bus, in the street and at school.
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While the Right has been telling women to fear what they call ‘men in changing rooms’, girls and young women have actually been marginalised and threatened by boys and men in public, on the bus, in the street and at school. Going out after dark has become a no no…and folks that’s going to be after 4pm in a few short weeks.
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While the Right has been telling women to fear what they call ‘men in changing rooms’, girls and young women have actually been marginalised and threatened by boys and men in public, on the bus, in the street and at school. Going out after dark has become a no no…and folks that’s going to be after 4pm in a few short weeks.
@JugglingWithEggs I am one of many men, I suspect, who found out way too late in life that many women walk round in defensive mode in public.
That public spaces which are safe for us, are not safe for them.
That walking back to a bus at night means holding keys in your fist ready to hit a stranger if necessary - even in a well lit, urban street.
I wish we were taught this stuff at school - coz my parents' generation either didn't know or didn't care.
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@JugglingWithEggs I am one of many men, I suspect, who found out way too late in life that many women walk round in defensive mode in public.
That public spaces which are safe for us, are not safe for them.
That walking back to a bus at night means holding keys in your fist ready to hit a stranger if necessary - even in a well lit, urban street.
I wish we were taught this stuff at school - coz my parents' generation either didn't know or didn't care.
@JimmyB @JugglingWithEggs yes. But it needs to be taken a step beyond that, into *why* we feel that way, and the fact that shouldn't have to, and wouldn't have to if men weren't a threat. Otherwise it's too easy to fall into victim blaming when a women doesn't perform all the necessary defences.
Headline: Woman attacked on path at 4am!
Mum: What was she doing out alone at that time?
Me: What was he doing out attacking people who were just trying to get home?
Mum: ...
(Actual conversation, which continued to a shift of blame from her to him, where it rightfully belonged) -
@JimmyB @JugglingWithEggs yes. But it needs to be taken a step beyond that, into *why* we feel that way, and the fact that shouldn't have to, and wouldn't have to if men weren't a threat. Otherwise it's too easy to fall into victim blaming when a women doesn't perform all the necessary defences.
Headline: Woman attacked on path at 4am!
Mum: What was she doing out alone at that time?
Me: What was he doing out attacking people who were just trying to get home?
Mum: ...
(Actual conversation, which continued to a shift of blame from her to him, where it rightfully belonged)Oh - 100%. I had to go into my daugher's school to chat to the head to ask why they were teaching the girls to be careful, but not teaching the boys to behave properly. He didn't understand my point. 'But we have to keep the girls safe'.
It's depressing.
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Oh - 100%. I had to go into my daugher's school to chat to the head to ask why they were teaching the girls to be careful, but not teaching the boys to behave properly. He didn't understand my point. 'But we have to keep the girls safe'.
It's depressing.
@JimmyB @JugglingWithEggs aaaaarrrrggghhh!
I bet they teach all the kids to be careful while crossing the road. And I bet they also ask parents to be careful driving & parking near school, support measures like yellow zigzags near the gates or 20mph limits with speed humps, and call for enforcement. Because you don't just mitigate a risk from one end when you can influence both. -
@JimmyB @JugglingWithEggs aaaaarrrrggghhh!
I bet they teach all the kids to be careful while crossing the road. And I bet they also ask parents to be careful driving & parking near school, support measures like yellow zigzags near the gates or 20mph limits with speed humps, and call for enforcement. Because you don't just mitigate a risk from one end when you can influence both.I think it's worse than that: the failure to address this in school acts as a quiet endorsement. That 'well that's just what men are like' kind of endorsement.
We need strong voices in school saying: these behaviours aren't OK. Other people have bodily and mental autonomy and it is not acceptable to abuse that. Here are the consequences, boys, of this behaviour...
Because without those voices, we continue the status quo.
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Oh - 100%. I had to go into my daugher's school to chat to the head to ask why they were teaching the girls to be careful, but not teaching the boys to behave properly. He didn't understand my point. 'But we have to keep the girls safe'.
It's depressing.
@JimmyB @jetlagjen @JugglingWithEggs In all my years of working with innovation & development etc. I've seen so many projects about "keeping women safe" through technology & information - but not a single one of them did it by making boys & men stop being such a threat. Only lately can you even point this out without becoming an instant social pariah.
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