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  • andresimous@oslo.townA andresimous@oslo.town

    @CiaraNi @sebastian @Flatus
    What's your opinion about Jottacloud? They are a Norwegian company.
    https://jottacloud.com/nb/

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    #55

    @andresimous @CiaraNi As I recall (haven't double-checked this time around), Jottacloud requires that you use their software; they don't make a standards-based API (like WebDAV, SFTP, S3, or something similar) available. That makes their offer a no sale at least for me.

    Moving from one vendor that locks your data in to another vendor that locks your data in is not really an upgrade IMO. Especially when there are so many vendors who will happily sell something standardized.

    @sebastian @Flatus

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    • leanderlindahl@mastodon.socialL leanderlindahl@mastodon.social

      @CiaraNi @metteh jag har använt qwant sedan jag skiftade i mars månad, så jag vet inte riktigt hur AI-sök i t ex Google är nuförtiden. Borde nog kolla upp det. Både Qwant och Ecosia har en knapp om AI att trycka på, men det är frivilligt så vitt jag förstår...

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      #56

      @leanderlindahl @metteh Det lyder lovende. Hvis man kan slukke for AI via én knap, så er det allerede bedre end Big Tech-udgavene.

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        @Bodo Interesting. That sounds effective. I must look at that. Thanks for the tip.

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        #57

        @CiaraNi You are welcome!!!

        If you have further questions you are welcome to tooot me ore, better for you I think, have a look at the great forum of Synthing. 😃

        https://forum.syncthing.net/

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        • mkj@social.mkj.earthM mkj@social.mkj.earth

          @andresimous @CiaraNi As I recall (haven't double-checked this time around), Jottacloud requires that you use their software; they don't make a standards-based API (like WebDAV, SFTP, S3, or something similar) available. That makes their offer a no sale at least for me.

          Moving from one vendor that locks your data in to another vendor that locks your data in is not really an upgrade IMO. Especially when there are so many vendors who will happily sell something standardized.

          @sebastian @Flatus

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          #58

          @mkj Good information. Thanks. @andresimous @sebastian @Flatus

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          • bodo@social.tchncs.deB bodo@social.tchncs.de

            @CiaraNi You are welcome!!!

            If you have further questions you are welcome to tooot me ore, better for you I think, have a look at the great forum of Synthing. 😃

            https://forum.syncthing.net/

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            #59

            @Bodo Thank you! I really appreciate that.

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              @CiaraNi

              Do this switch fast, because the wealthiest people on the planet are funding efforts to put AI everywhere.

              AI is international state surveillance & malign influence campaign generator.

              AI is spyware & these billionaires don't give two hoots about anyone's "economic mobility" but their own.
              https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2025/07/17/bill-gates-charles-koch-and-three-other-billionaires-are-giving-1-billion-to-enhance-economic-mobility-in-the-us/

              https://theconversation.com/i-used-ai-chatbots-as-a-source-of-news-for-a-month-and-they-were-unreliable-and-erroneous-268251

              https://www.barrons.com/articles/shopify-stock-price-ai-gemini-copilot-8091a3bf

              https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5683359-artificial-intelligence-future-war/

              https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/11/how-grok-nudification-tool-went-viral-x-elon-musk

              https://www.customerexperiencedive.com/news/google-cloud-agentic-ai-brands-build-bots/809260/

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              #60

              2/

              Just as the Daughters of the Confederacy rewrote history to whitewash slavery, AI enables the same "amnesia" about crimes against humanity, like ecocide.
              https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/01/ai-memorization-research/685552/

              "Personalized shopping" is price fixing
              https://www.ft.com/content/957c7438-b2e0-4605-a276-caa8a7ec363c
              https://archive.ph/Q7wp3

              https://www.cp24.com/news/world/2026/01/11/google-teams-up-with-walmart-and-other-retailers-to-enable-shopping-within-gemini-ai-chatbot/

              https://www.axios.com/2026/01/11/walmart-google-gemini-ai-shopping

              AI medical summaries are disguising anti-health disinformation campaigns & antivaxxer ideology.

              https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/11/google-ai-overviews-health-guardian-investigation

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              • mkj@social.mkj.earthM mkj@social.mkj.earth

                @CiaraNi Getting *something* done is absolutely a lot better than doing nothing.

                If you want cloud storage for one copy (*don't* make that your only copy! always have at least one completely separate backup; and since you have that backup drive, you're practically all the way there already), there are several European providers that will sell you either bare storage space or something like a managed Nextcloud instance (where you can also store arbitrary files).

                @sebastian @Flatus

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                #61

                @mkj Good points. Once I got the back-up external drive, I instantly felt less pressured about finding a new cloud provider. I've started the process, and it doesn't feel as overwhelming as if I had to try and get everything out of one locked-in cloud and into a new, unfamiliar one overnight. 'Something' better than 'nothing' - yes, that strategy works for me.

                @sebastian @Flatus

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech. March 20th is Big Switch Day. I’ve named my goal now. I’m already almost deMicrosofted, except for my photo archive. I moved to Libre & Tuta mail and have been purging photos as I await the release of Tuta drive. Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house, by March 20th. Then I’ll delete Microsoft. Then I’ll boast about it on the Fediverse.

                  #DanmarkSkifter

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                  #62

                  @CiaraNi Just a suggestion, which of course may not fit your needs.
                  Consider if you could put your music, video, and data onto a home NAS, and securely stream it within the house but also outside the house.
                  No need for any cloud drive, and little need for a streaming service. Audio streaming already starves musicians, buy and rip CDs instead. Video streaming is enshittifying with less for more. No data for water-hoarding data centres.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech. March 20th is Big Switch Day. I’ve named my goal now. I’m already almost deMicrosofted, except for my photo archive. I moved to Libre & Tuta mail and have been purging photos as I await the release of Tuta drive. Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house, by March 20th. Then I’ll delete Microsoft. Then I’ll boast about it on the Fediverse.

                    #DanmarkSkifter

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                    #63

                    @CiaraNi Lovely! Good luck!

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech. March 20th is Big Switch Day. I’ve named my goal now. I’m already almost deMicrosofted, except for my photo archive. I moved to Libre & Tuta mail and have been purging photos as I await the release of Tuta drive. Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house, by March 20th. Then I’ll delete Microsoft. Then I’ll boast about it on the Fediverse.

                      #DanmarkSkifter

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                      #64

                      @CiaraNi I am inspired! I moved to Libre a few months ago & set up a Tuta account. I still have photos & calendar on iCloud though. It is a process

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        2/

                        Just as the Daughters of the Confederacy rewrote history to whitewash slavery, AI enables the same "amnesia" about crimes against humanity, like ecocide.
                        https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/01/ai-memorization-research/685552/

                        "Personalized shopping" is price fixing
                        https://www.ft.com/content/957c7438-b2e0-4605-a276-caa8a7ec363c
                        https://archive.ph/Q7wp3

                        https://www.cp24.com/news/world/2026/01/11/google-teams-up-with-walmart-and-other-retailers-to-enable-shopping-within-gemini-ai-chatbot/

                        https://www.axios.com/2026/01/11/walmart-google-gemini-ai-shopping

                        AI medical summaries are disguising anti-health disinformation campaigns & antivaxxer ideology.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/11/google-ai-overviews-health-guardian-investigation

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                        #65

                        3/

                        AI coding assistants disguise wage suppression schemes, mass layoffs, and monopolization
                        https://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-coding-degrades

                        https://github.blog/ai-and-ml/llms/why-ai-is-pushing-developers-toward-typed-languages/

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2026/ai-jobs-automation/

                        AI is a system to narc on former employers IP
                        https://www.wired.com/story/openai-contractor-upload-real-work-documents-ai-agents/

                        AI is a system that ensures a lack of privacy everywhere
                        https://www.wired.com/story/physical-ai-is-coming-for-your-car/

                        AI is a porn generator & distributor
                        https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/09/grok-image-generator-outcry-sexualised-ai-imagery

                        AI is the means for election meddling
                        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/nyregion/ny-hochul-ai-candidates.html

                        https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/202601/the-sixth-element-ai-as-consciousness-great-convergence

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                        • leanderlindahl@mastodon.socialL leanderlindahl@mastodon.social

                          @CiaraNi @metteh jag har använt qwant sedan jag skiftade i mars månad, så jag vet inte riktigt hur AI-sök i t ex Google är nuförtiden. Borde nog kolla upp det. Både Qwant och Ecosia har en knapp om AI att trycka på, men det är frivilligt så vitt jag förstår...

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                          #66

                          @CiaraNi @metteh
                          Jag hade tydligen fel. Qwant har inte AI, vilket ju är bra ur ert perspektiv.

                          Enligt den här artikeln på franska från 25 november 2025

                          https://www.emarketerz.fr/les-moteurs-de-recherche-sans-ia-brave-duckduckgo-qwant-quel-avenir/

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            @mkj Good information. Thanks. @andresimous @sebastian @Flatus

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                            #67

                            @CiaraNi @mkj @andresimous @sebastian If you self-host, how do you handle backups?
                            And do you just keep images on a regular drive?
                            How do you keep track of everything?

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                            • bashstkid@mastodon.onlineB bashstkid@mastodon.online

                              @CiaraNi Just a suggestion, which of course may not fit your needs.
                              Consider if you could put your music, video, and data onto a home NAS, and securely stream it within the house but also outside the house.
                              No need for any cloud drive, and little need for a streaming service. Audio streaming already starves musicians, buy and rip CDs instead. Video streaming is enshittifying with less for more. No data for water-hoarding data centres.

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                              @BashStKid @CiaraNi I mean, yeah, but I've been wanting a NAS for the last 5 years because they're so *cute* (and also useful) but it's really hard to justify the expense.

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                @mkj Good points. Once I got the back-up external drive, I instantly felt less pressured about finding a new cloud provider. I've started the process, and it doesn't feel as overwhelming as if I had to try and get everything out of one locked-in cloud and into a new, unfamiliar one overnight. 'Something' better than 'nothing' - yes, that strategy works for me.

                                @sebastian @Flatus

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                                #69

                                @CiaraNi There are so many people who take either an absolutist (must do everything at once and everything must be perfect) or a defaitist (nothing one does matters at all) approach.

                                My opinion is quite simply: *every step you take toward better leaves you in a better position!*

                                Just looking at the steps you have already taken (and committed to), you're probably *already* in a better position than a *huge* number of people. Don't dismiss the progress you've already made.

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech. March 20th is Big Switch Day. I’ve named my goal now. I’m already almost deMicrosofted, except for my photo archive. I moved to Libre & Tuta mail and have been purging photos as I await the release of Tuta drive. Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house, by March 20th. Then I’ll delete Microsoft. Then I’ll boast about it on the Fediverse.

                                  #DanmarkSkifter

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                                  #70

                                  @CiaraNi been a long time.Linux user, so no M$ for me, but have recently de googled completely.
                                  Tuta and Proton for mail
                                  Ente for photos
                                  Mega for general cloud storage

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                                  • flatus@radikal.socialF flatus@radikal.social

                                    @CiaraNi @mkj @andresimous @sebastian If you self-host, how do you handle backups?
                                    And do you just keep images on a regular drive?
                                    How do you keep track of everything?

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                                    #71

                                    @Flatus I'm not @CiaraNi but I can say about backups from my own perspective: by having copies! Keeping things solely in the cloud is definitely not a backup!

                                    Once you have stuff somewhere you have full control, backing up is "just" copying the right files to elsewhere.

                                    (If you're curious how *I* personally am handling backups, I wrote a blog post at https://michael.kjorling.se/blog/2024/my-data-backup-setup/ about two years ago. It's not completely up to date, but nothing major has changed since.)

                                    @andresimous @sebastian

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech. March 20th is Big Switch Day. I’ve named my goal now. I’m already almost deMicrosofted, except for my photo archive. I moved to Libre & Tuta mail and have been purging photos as I await the release of Tuta drive. Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house, by March 20th. Then I’ll delete Microsoft. Then I’ll boast about it on the Fediverse.

                                      #DanmarkSkifter

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                                      #72

                                      @CiaraNi If you need a cloud thing to replace OneDrive, my experience with NextCloud is really good 👍 I started with a free account via thegood.cloud & have recently upgraded to a paid one 😁

                                      (I'm not using it for auto-syncing pictures from my phone but I'm told i can do it natively)

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                                        3/

                                        AI coding assistants disguise wage suppression schemes, mass layoffs, and monopolization
                                        https://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-coding-degrades

                                        https://github.blog/ai-and-ml/llms/why-ai-is-pushing-developers-toward-typed-languages/

                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2026/ai-jobs-automation/

                                        AI is a system to narc on former employers IP
                                        https://www.wired.com/story/openai-contractor-upload-real-work-documents-ai-agents/

                                        AI is a system that ensures a lack of privacy everywhere
                                        https://www.wired.com/story/physical-ai-is-coming-for-your-car/

                                        AI is a porn generator & distributor
                                        https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/09/grok-image-generator-outcry-sexualised-ai-imagery

                                        AI is the means for election meddling
                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/nyregion/ny-hochul-ai-candidates.html

                                        https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/202601/the-sixth-element-ai-as-consciousness-great-convergence

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                                        #73

                                        4/

                                        AI is creating chokepoints, bottlenecks, & likely points of failure in fragile systems. It erodes robustness, reliability, & redundancy.
                                        https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/rkh9611zb11g

                                        AI removes guardrails, governance, and oversight. It obscures provenance.
                                        https://www.psychologytoday.com/ie/blog/dancing-with-the-devil/202601/the-emotions-behind-ai

                                        AI is worsening the climate crisis.
                                        https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/ai-climate-change-bill-gates/

                                        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/17/ai-climate-crisis-cop30

                                        AI is trying to substitute expertise for lies
                                        https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/article/suspended-toronto-lawyer-linked-to-deadly-triple-shooting-caught-using-ai-in-appeal/

                                        https://www.popsci.com/technology/ai-making-clocks/

                                        https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/08/google-adds-gemini-features-to-gmail-message-summaries-proofreading-.html

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                                          4/

                                          AI is creating chokepoints, bottlenecks, & likely points of failure in fragile systems. It erodes robustness, reliability, & redundancy.
                                          https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/rkh9611zb11g

                                          AI removes guardrails, governance, and oversight. It obscures provenance.
                                          https://www.psychologytoday.com/ie/blog/dancing-with-the-devil/202601/the-emotions-behind-ai

                                          AI is worsening the climate crisis.
                                          https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/ai-climate-change-bill-gates/

                                          https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/17/ai-climate-crisis-cop30

                                          AI is trying to substitute expertise for lies
                                          https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/article/suspended-toronto-lawyer-linked-to-deadly-triple-shooting-caught-using-ai-in-appeal/

                                          https://www.popsci.com/technology/ai-making-clocks/

                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/08/google-adds-gemini-features-to-gmail-message-summaries-proofreading-.html

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                                          5/

                                          AI is a mechanism for social engineering & fuels a societal mental health crisis. It manipulates public sentiment.

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/experts-warn-collapse-trust-online-ai-deepfakes-venezuela-rcna252472

                                          https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/08/google-character-ai-settlement-teen-suicide

                                          https://www.healthcareittoday.com/2026/01/11/bonus-features-january-11-2026-64-of-healthcare-orgs-lack-ai-anomaly-detection-ai-made-up-46-of-all-healthcare-tech-investments-in-2025-plus-33-more-stories/

                                          AI is going to cause a timely financial crisis in time for the midterms.
                                          A fossil fuel industry funded fascist rugpull to keep the GOP in power.
                                          https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5672643/market-ai-what-is-a-bubble

                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/10/are-we-in-an-ai-bubble-tech-leaders-analysts.html

                                          https://www.theguardian.com/money/2026/jan/10/ai-bubble-finances-crash-tech-meltdown-savings-pensions

                                          https://www.economist.com/business/2026/01/08/the-ai-frenzy-is-creating-a-big-problem-for-consumer-electronics
                                          https://archive.ph/y8Hqz

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