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  3. Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

    Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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    @vkc Somewhat ironically, the old dot matrix should be free of tracking dots.

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    • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

      @vkc Somewhat ironically, the old dot matrix should be free of tracking dots.

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      #3

      @ozzelot hmmm, I wonder if that's why someone still uses it

      renatoram@fosstodon.orgR scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.socialS kalleboo@bitbang.socialK 3 Replies Last reply
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      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

        Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

        kiloku@burnthis.townK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @vkc gotta bust out the mimeographs. And I'm not even joking

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        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

          Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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          #5

          @vkc I was completely unaware, and yet I am not surprised.

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          • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

            @ozzelot hmmm, I wonder if that's why someone still uses it

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            #6

            @vkc @ozzelot

            Also still somewhat useful for multi copy transfer paper (not sure of the name in English) which work on impact (less and less common these days of course)

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            • kiloku@burnthis.townK kiloku@burnthis.town

              @vkc gotta bust out the mimeographs. And I'm not even joking

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              #7

              @Kiloku I look for one every month on Craigslist. It's on my bucket list of video topics to cover. "The sweetest copies you'll ever smell"

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              • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                #8

                @vkc This is why I stick to cutting out letters from magazines and newspapers and taping them to the paper for my correspondence.

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                • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                  Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                  #9
                  Reminded me of the caution people had around printing stuff out at pharmacies when I was younger.

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                  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                    Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                    #10
                    Reminded me of the caution people had around getting your photos developed at pharmacies when I was younger.

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                    • renatoram@fosstodon.orgR renatoram@fosstodon.org

                      @vkc @ozzelot

                      Also still somewhat useful for multi copy transfer paper (not sure of the name in English) which work on impact (less and less common these days of course)

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                      #11

                      @renatoram @vkc That might be the reason to use them in post offices and the like.
                      Sadly, when I was starting my new bank account last year, they just printed two copies of the paperwork on a laser, and why wouldn't they, it's fast as heck.

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                      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                        Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                        #12

                        @vkc

                        Or just print out random yellow dots on the pages first, then feed it back in again for the print run.

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                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                          @Kiloku I look for one every month on Craigslist. It's on my bucket list of video topics to cover. "The sweetest copies you'll ever smell"

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                          #13

                          @vkc @Kiloku As a kid, a friend and I ran a small neighborhood newspaper. We talked businesses into advertising in it, and distributed it in a maybe 10 block area because many people needed birdcage liner, and also because who didn't want to read a review of a TV show by a kid?

                          We talked the bowling alley into letting us use their mimeograph machine in exchange for an ad placement.

                          Mmmm. Mmmmimeograph smell.

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                          • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                            Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                            #14

                            @vkc
                            😆 😆
                            Like accidently printing the Tickets for a fetish fair on the office printer at work, instead the printer at home. 😛

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                            • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                              Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                              #15

                              @vkc Thank you. The Wikipedia article helpfully refers to software to help remove the pattern before publishing scans and thwart recognition of your printers pattern by adding a mask before printing https://github.com/dfd-tud/deda

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                              • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                @vkc Somewhat ironically, the old dot matrix should be free of tracking dots.

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                                #16

                                @ozzelot @vkc

                                But I believe the impacts could be analysed and compared instead.

                                Buy a spare print head and bury it in the forrest, when not printing secret stuff.

                                Keep lots of example of printing with your normal print head.

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                                • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                  @renatoram @vkc That might be the reason to use them in post offices and the like.
                                  Sadly, when I was starting my new bank account last year, they just printed two copies of the paperwork on a laser, and why wouldn't they, it's fast as heck.

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                                  #17

                                  @ozzelot @vkc used to be (at least in Italy) that two copies that were not the result of a single unique action weren't legally considered actual copies, I believe.

                                  Plus, yeah, when printing hundreds of invoices in the early 2000s it was probably faster and cheaper (I remember pre-printed forms of continuous paper that would make 5 copies in one go).

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                                  • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                    @renatoram @vkc That might be the reason to use them in post offices and the like.
                                    Sadly, when I was starting my new bank account last year, they just printed two copies of the paperwork on a laser, and why wouldn't they, it's fast as heck.

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                                    #18

                                    @ozzelot @renatoram @vkc

                                    Shipping companies still use them but it is becoming increasingly rare even amongst them (CMR form if memory serves me right)

                                    Fun fact: I used to work at a call center supporting software that allowed printing those forms. I can't tell you how many little tips for resolving printer issues we had - but rarely if ever had genuine unsolvable defects. And if something broke, replace the part *maybe* recalibrate and off you go

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                                    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                      Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                                      @vkc Related: a lot of things labelled as "fax machine" can actually also function as stand-alone USB printers. And "fax machines" are often free on classifieds, and use cheap generic cartridges/toners, and (aside from stuff like doorbell cameras) that means there's basically no paper or money trail from the original purchaser to you at all.

                                      It's not a bad way to get hold of a more or less anonymous printer.

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                                      • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

                                        @ozzelot @renatoram @vkc

                                        Shipping companies still use them but it is becoming increasingly rare even amongst them (CMR form if memory serves me right)

                                        Fun fact: I used to work at a call center supporting software that allowed printing those forms. I can't tell you how many little tips for resolving printer issues we had - but rarely if ever had genuine unsolvable defects. And if something broke, replace the part *maybe* recalibrate and off you go

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                                        #20

                                        @Aprazeth @ozzelot @vkc good old 120 columns Brother printers... They'd shake the table like a washing machine

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                                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                          Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                                          #21

                                          @vkc The dot decoding was used in episode of The Night Agent, so hopefully awareness is increasing. Good reason to use a mono-only printer where possible.

                                          Each of these leaks shows just how broken classified document handling in the USA is.

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