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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

    2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

    2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

    ...

    2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN muddle@infosec.exchangeM smilingdemon@mastodon.artS unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT 32 Replies Last reply
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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

      2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

      2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

      ...

      2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      This is, of course, a daft mentality.

      The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

      It can also make and receive calls.

      avian@mstdn.businessA krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK ozzelot@mstdn.socialO damien@layer8.spaceD revk@toot.me.ukR 11 Replies Last reply
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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        This is, of course, a daft mentality.

        The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

        It can also make and receive calls.

        avian@mstdn.businessA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @neil yes, although that was also true of the old black slab....

        charlesshould@mastodon.onlineC 1 Reply Last reply
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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

          2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

          2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

          ...

          2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

          muddle@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
          muddle@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @neil Monolith, Monolith, MONOLITH!

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            This is, of course, a daft mentality.

            The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

            It can also make and receive calls.

            krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK This user is from outside of this forum
            krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @neil If you buy the right black slab and have a go-getter attitude it can do all of that and have a lifetime measured in possibly decades!

            Or at least, more than 3-4 years.

            I fucking hate that Bootloaders being locked down is legal.

            neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN 1 Reply Last reply
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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              This is, of course, a daft mentality.

              The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

              It can also make and receive calls.

              ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
              ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @neil If only most of that compute wasn't locked out from under your hands and just used for ever more powerful spyware.

              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN 1 Reply Last reply
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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                This is, of course, a daft mentality.

                The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

                It can also make and receive calls.

                damien@layer8.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @neil what's this call thing you speak of?

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                • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                  @neil If only most of that compute wasn't locked out from under your hands and just used for ever more powerful spyware.

                  neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                  neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                  neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
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                  #8

                  @ozzelot I am not convinced that it is?

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                  • krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK krutonium@social.treehouse.systems

                    @neil If you buy the right black slab and have a go-getter attitude it can do all of that and have a lifetime measured in possibly decades!

                    Or at least, more than 3-4 years.

                    I fucking hate that Bootloaders being locked down is legal.

                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @krutonium I'd hope for five from this, but I am also mindful that a lot can happen in five years.

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      @krutonium I'd hope for five from this, but I am also mindful that a lot can happen in five years.

                      krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @neil I typically run my phones as long as I reasonably can... I have a Samsung Core LTE phone on Android 15 as a result.

                      Also my Tablet is on Android 17, which is less of a feat since it shipped with Android 12 instead of Android 4 lol.

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                        2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                        2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                        ...

                        2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

                        smilingdemon@mastodon.artS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @neil accurate

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                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                          This is, of course, a daft mentality.

                          The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

                          It can also make and receive calls.

                          revk@toot.me.ukR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @neil can I buy one that *can’t* make and receive calls. That may be useful.

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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                            2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                            2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                            2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                            ...

                            2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

                            unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU This user is from outside of this forum
                            unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @neil

                            Yeah. I have zero enthusiasm for the point when my current phone is too old to support something I have to have - because of the time lost to setting up the next, because I'm sure the next will fail to run something I also like, and because so few of them have headphone sockets any more.

                            Advancement like this is more like deterioration.

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                            • krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK krutonium@social.treehouse.systems

                              @neil I typically run my phones as long as I reasonably can... I have a Samsung Core LTE phone on Android 15 as a result.

                              Also my Tablet is on Android 17, which is less of a feat since it shipped with Android 12 instead of Android 4 lol.

                              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @krutonium Cool! For me, the test is really whether my device continues to get security updates.

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                              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                                2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                                2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                                ...

                                2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

                                tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @neil you just described my last phone "upgrade". seems the only thing that changes is the price (more!).

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                                • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                  @neil can I buy one that *can’t* make and receive calls. That may be useful.

                                  mikecox@mastodon.iow.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @revk @neil Amen to that!

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                                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                    2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                                    2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                                    2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                                    ...

                                    2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

                                    gisgeek@floss.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @neil It is called programmed obsolescence and it is not something in the smartphone world only. See the latest ton of PCs that cannot upgrade to Windows 11. Only in Europe is it a massive demolition program for millions of devices. The only refuge is using FOSS OS in that case.

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                                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                      2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                                      2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                                      2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                                      ...

                                      2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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                                      #18

                                      @neil Yup, this exactly. If long-term security updates and user-replaceable batteries were mandated for all phones, there would be little point upgrading for most people (which would be great, we could spend the money on something useful instead and avoid creating e-waste).

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                                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                        2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                                        2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                                        2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                                        ...

                                        2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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                                        #19

                                        @neil thanks for the sharp zaurus call out which I still have haha. Electronic hoarding

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          @ozzelot I am not convinced that it is?

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                                          @neil @ozzelot wipe your device & install AOSP, your device will be faster & more responsive than you could ever have imagined...

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