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  3. We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE This user is from outside of this forum
    eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE This user is from outside of this forum
    eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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    #1

    We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

    There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

    Key features of the addictive design:
    🔹Infinite scroll
    🔹Autoplay
    🔹Push notifications
    🔹Highly personalised recommender system

    We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

    TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

    https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

    axeln@norden.socialA sam@break3.socialS jonben@social.spejset.orgJ leavex@mastodon.socialL grob@mstdn.socialG 39 Replies Last reply
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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

      Key features of the addictive design:
      🔹Infinite scroll
      🔹Autoplay
      🔹Push notifications
      🔹Highly personalised recommender system

      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

      axeln@norden.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
      axeln@norden.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
      axeln@norden.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @EUCommission Thank you. Next up: Insta.

      eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE 1 Reply Last reply
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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

        There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

        Key features of the addictive design:
        🔹Infinite scroll
        🔹Autoplay
        🔹Push notifications
        🔹Highly personalised recommender system

        We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

        TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

        https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

        sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
        sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
        sam@break3.social
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        #3

        @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu So how would this work with Loops? As that has infinite scrolling, autoplay, push notifications (coming soon), and there for you page is only getting better.

        Does this mean Loops is at high risk too?

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        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

          There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

          Key features of the addictive design:
          🔹Infinite scroll
          🔹Autoplay
          🔹Push notifications
          🔹Highly personalised recommender system

          We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

          TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

          https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

          jonben@social.spejset.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jonben@social.spejset.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jonben@social.spejset.org
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @EUCommission Please save us some taxpayer Euros and just ban the blasted thing! 😉

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

            There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

            Key features of the addictive design:
            🔹Infinite scroll
            🔹Autoplay
            🔹Push notifications
            🔹Highly personalised recommender system

            We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

            TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

            https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

            leavex@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
            leavex@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @EUCommission go, go, go!

            https://gram.social/p/leavex/925373860645730520

            #LeaveTikTok #DSA #EU

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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

              There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

              Key features of the addictive design:
              🔹Infinite scroll
              🔹Autoplay
              🔹Push notifications
              🔹Highly personalised recommender system

              We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

              TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

              https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

              grob@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              grob@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              grob@mstdn.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @EUCommission I can't help the feeling the EU is finally waking up and prepared to throw its weight around.

              eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE 1 Reply Last reply
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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                Key features of the addictive design:
                🔹Infinite scroll
                🔹Autoplay
                🔹Push notifications
                🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                hyevans@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                hyevans@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                hyevans@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @EUCommission

                That is not the only problem. Consider this :

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                  There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                  Key features of the addictive design:
                  🔹Infinite scroll
                  🔹Autoplay
                  🔹Push notifications
                  🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                  We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                  TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                  https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                  hyevans@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hyevans@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hyevans@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @EUCommission

                  Ban TikTok , X and META!

                  js@mastodon.nlJ 1 Reply Last reply
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                  • sam@break3.socialS sam@break3.social

                    @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu So how would this work with Loops? As that has infinite scrolling, autoplay, push notifications (coming soon), and there for you page is only getting better.

                    Does this mean Loops is at high risk too?

                    ikuturso@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
                    ikuturso@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
                    ikuturso@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @sam @EUCommission I'm guessing they only look at platforms once they grow large enough, there are such limits for reporting requirements at least.

                    That said, I think it could make sense to eventually implement features that prevent people from becoming too addicted to Loops too.

                    The current Loops algo and the content the platform has probably isn't as finely tuned to be extremely addictive and there's no reason to make it be though.

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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                      Key features of the addictive design:
                      🔹Infinite scroll
                      🔹Autoplay
                      🔹Push notifications
                      🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                      stux@mstdn.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!

                      https://vido.social/invite/a_019c0565-43b2-7142-a249-c4193ce9565dFNNtC5E

                      ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA athavariel@social.vivaldi.netA kubofhromoslav@esperanto.masto.hostK 3 Replies Last reply
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                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                        We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                        There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                        Key features of the addictive design:
                        🔹Infinite scroll
                        🔹Autoplay
                        🔹Push notifications
                        🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                        We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                        TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                        https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                        marta_f_r@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                        marta_f_r@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                        marta_f_r@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #11

                        @EUCommission
                        Isn,t youtube the same?

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                        • marta_f_r@mastodon.socialM marta_f_r@mastodon.social

                          @EUCommission
                          Isn,t youtube the same?

                          sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                          sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @marta_f_r@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu and Instagram Reels

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                          • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                            @sam @EUCommission I'm guessing they only look at platforms once they grow large enough, there are such limits for reporting requirements at least.

                            That said, I think it could make sense to eventually implement features that prevent people from becoming too addicted to Loops too.

                            The current Loops algo and the content the platform has probably isn't as finely tuned to be extremely addictive and there's no reason to make it be though.

                            tehpw@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            tehpw@mstdn.social
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                            #13

                            @ikuturso @sam @EUCommission your guess is correct. most of the DSA applies only to platforms >45 million monthly active users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#Designation_of_VLOPs_and_VLOSEs So if the fediverse, including loops, actually stays federated, meaning not too many people use the same instance (or different instances run by the same operator), its structure makes it inherently exempt.

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                              There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                              Key features of the addictive design:
                              🔹Infinite scroll
                              🔹Autoplay
                              🔹Push notifications
                              🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                              We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                              TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                              https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                              fanime@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #14

                              @EUCommission Enough with international double standards, Instagram and TikTok are equally addictive, they just have different age groups. Enforce changes on both or none. Is there similar action towards Instagram?

                              Congrats though, it's a step towards the right path 💫 and setting an example for other countries 🌍

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                              • tehpw@mstdn.socialT tehpw@mstdn.social

                                @ikuturso @sam @EUCommission your guess is correct. most of the DSA applies only to platforms >45 million monthly active users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#Designation_of_VLOPs_and_VLOSEs So if the fediverse, including loops, actually stays federated, meaning not too many people use the same instance (or different instances run by the same operator), its structure makes it inherently exempt.

                                sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.

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                                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                  @EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!

                                  https://vido.social/invite/a_019c0565-43b2-7142-a249-c4193ce9565dFNNtC5E

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                                  #16

                                  @stux @EUCommission I don't think we need short-video platforms at all

                                  The purpose of the very idea of a short video platform is to be addictive and detrimental to attention spans.

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                                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                    We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                    There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                    Key features of the addictive design:
                                    🔹Infinite scroll
                                    🔹Autoplay
                                    🔹Push notifications
                                    🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                    We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                    TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                    https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                    hans@procolix.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    @EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                      Key features of the addictive design:
                                      🔹Infinite scroll
                                      🔹Autoplay
                                      🔹Push notifications
                                      🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                      albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #18

                                      @EUCommission

                                      "Kids between 12 and 15 spend 4 to 5 hours daily on Tiktok."

                                      140 million users in the European Union alone.

                                      Tiktok sure is an abomination but one must ask as well why parents and grandparents are so busy that they can't properly engage with their own kids. The cost of living crisis made of Tiktok a convenient child minder. Same with Youtube, on that regard.

                                      #Europe #EuropeanUnion #Tiktok

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                        There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                        Key features of the addictive design:
                                        🔹Infinite scroll
                                        🔹Autoplay
                                        🔹Push notifications
                                        🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                        We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                        TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                        https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                        atlovato@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        atlovato@mastodon.social
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                                        #19

                                        @EUCommission - What an App to lose brain cells.

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                                        • sam@break3.socialS sam@break3.social

                                          @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.

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                                          #20

                                          @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.

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