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  3. It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

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  • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

    It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

    ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

    Every response is a choice.

    justin@toot.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @cliffle I'm lost as to where you are confused. LLM generation by companies that are large has all but nullified laws. Laws are for common folks who don't have millions of dollars of lawyers on standby to find loopholes and such.

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    • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

      It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

      ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

      Every response is a choice.

      abazigal@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @cliffle Ben Thompson coined the term “strategy credit”. It’s easy to do something when it doesn’t you anything to do so. 😛

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      • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

        It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

        ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

        Every response is a choice.

        Z This user is from outside of this forum
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        zerodowntime@mastodon.social
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        #7

        @cliffle I got rid of Google Maps today. I believe this was the final nail in the coffin for my decades long year relationship with Google. Now to explore the options... 😊

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        • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

          It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

          ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

          Every response is a choice.

          anniebuddy@thecanadian.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @cliffle

          And we tell ourselves that Trump is the problem and once he is gone everything will be peachy.

          Yeah, no. He is the tip of the American iceberg. There’s a whole lot of Americans 100% into this shit. He is not alone

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          • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

            It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

            ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

            Every response is a choice.

            macronaut@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @cliffle that is all true! The expediency with which Google changed the name may have something to do with the orange stain on humanity uses Google Maps, and boot lickers do what boot lickers do best.

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            • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

              It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

              ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

              Every response is a choice.

              tjc_2@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @cliffle

              Oh, GOOGLE - an executive order is NOT a law that YOU must obey. It's an order for the executive branch to follow unless it's not allowed by law. It's YOUR CHOICE to kowtow to this nonsense.

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              • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                Every response is a choice.

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                #11

                @cliffle My last (intentional) tie to Google was Google Maps. Time to sever that tie too.

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                • maya_b@hachyderm.ioM maya_b@hachyderm.io

                  @cliffle

                  it's almost like they're daring Canada and Canadians to abandon and boycott their plattorm

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                  #12

                  @maya_b @cliffle They think that if they show Canada "Lake Ontario" they will be OK, ignoring that Trump's approval rating is down to 30% and most Americans will think they are pathetic wimps for going along with this. New York State and the city of Rochester have officially rejected the change, so no one bordering the lake wants this shit.

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                  • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                    It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                    ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                    Every response is a choice.

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                    #13

                    @cliffle it is a choice, until corporations declare themselves nation states who don't have to abide by the government they operate in.

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                    • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                      It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                      ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                      Every response is a choice.

                      tknarr@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #14

                      @cliffle Check how fast USGS NGIS altered the name. That's where Google gets the names from for maps displayed for US users.

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                      • Z zerodowntime@mastodon.social

                        @cliffle I got rid of Google Maps today. I believe this was the final nail in the coffin for my decades long year relationship with Google. Now to explore the options... 😊

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                        #15

                        @zerodowntime @cliffle , never had the app because…well…because it’s Google. 🤷‍♀️

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                        • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                          It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                          ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                          Every response is a choice.

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                          #16

                          @cliffle Who specifically said they are doing it because they're following orders?

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                          • tknarr@mstdn.socialT tknarr@mstdn.social

                            @cliffle Check how fast USGS NGIS altered the name. That's where Google gets the names from for maps displayed for US users.

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                            #17

                            @tknarr @cliffle this is true, and the original post smells like disinformation.

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                            • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                              It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                              ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                              Every response is a choice.

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                              #18

                              @cliffle didn’t Google still have that report an error thing for maps? We know what to do then.

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                              • maya_b@hachyderm.ioM maya_b@hachyderm.io

                                @cliffle

                                it's almost like they're daring Canada and Canadians to abandon and boycott their plattorm

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                                #19

                                @maya_b @cliffle I see too many businesses with gmail accounts and almost every Canadian business website has Google Maps embedded on their Contact Us page

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                                • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                                  It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                                  ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                                  Every response is a choice.

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                                  #20

                                  @cliffle The choice is "join the illegal fascist regime to make more money".

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                                  • antopatriarca@mathstodon.xyzA antopatriarca@mathstodon.xyz

                                    @maya_b @cliffle I thought the name you see depended on your IP as I still see both the gulf and the lake using the old name and I assumed it was because I’m in Italy. Do Canadians (or Mexican in case of the gulf) see the Trump BS name? That would be some stupidity from Google.

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                                    #21

                                    @antopatriarca @maya_b @cliffle Google implemented this non law so well that some Canadian government sites didn't show Lake Ontario any more.

                                    https://hsnl.social/@eloy/117187268076254760

                                    Google compliance to actual law is, like always, glacial.

                                    https://hachyderm.io/@cliffle/117186781798605597

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                                    • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                                      It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                                      ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                                      Every response is a choice.

                                      npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #22

                                      @cliffle

                                      Everything Google does is intended to curry the favor of oil oligarchs, petrostate despots, and their financiers.

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/15/major-investor-calls-on-google-owner-to-aggressively-cut-staff-and-pay

                                      https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/billionaire-hohn-more-google-layoffs-17736530.php

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/07/heres-a-look-at-who.html

                                      https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligencer-trump-mbs-meeting-brings-ai-money-2025-11-20/

                                      https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-google-hand-dissident-data-to-saudi-arabia-activists-say-2023-7

                                      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-05-13/trump-mbs-tout-1-trillion-saudi-deal-commitment

                                      https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-saudi-event-include-ceos-chevron-qualcomm-pfizer-source-says-2025-11-17/

                                      https://www.thenation.com/article/society/wall-street-mbs-saudi-al-rumayyan/

                                      https://www.businessinsider.com/how-investment-in-uber-brought-saudi-prince-to-silicon-valley-2020-9

                                      https://fortune.com/2024/01/08/amazon-microsoft-google-opening-saudi-arabia-hqs/

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/us/politics/trump-saudi-business-lunch-musk-altman.html

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                                      • antopatriarca@mathstodon.xyzA antopatriarca@mathstodon.xyz

                                        @maya_b @cliffle I thought the name you see depended on your IP as I still see both the gulf and the lake using the old name and I assumed it was because I’m in Italy. Do Canadians (or Mexican in case of the gulf) see the Trump BS name? That would be some stupidity from Google.

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                                        #23

                                        @antopatriarca @maya_b @cliffle Germany sees "Lake Ontario (Lake America)". Not sure which other countries are affected how.

                                        I presume it will be consistent with the Gulf of Mexico.

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                                        • tjc_2@mastodon.socialT tjc_2@mastodon.social

                                          @cliffle

                                          Oh, GOOGLE - an executive order is NOT a law that YOU must obey. It's an order for the executive branch to follow unless it's not allowed by law. It's YOUR CHOICE to kowtow to this nonsense.

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                                          #24

                                          @TJC_2 @cliffle The usual trick is to threaten to end all government contracts on noncompliance.

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