DSB Talgo.
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@Pepijn but did they fix the straps on the baby changing tables?
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@Pepijn Just wait, the Police will get you free
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@Pepijn do you need us to call somoene to get you out?
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Ok. Am out. Doorlock is a goner on this one..
I so absolutely strongly dislike these shitty trains.
How the hell did international travel go from "quiet well functional comfortable passenger cabin" to "stuck in the smelly tiny toilet of a brand new train, requiring the strength of a strong adult to break out"
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@Pepijn do you need us to call somoene to get you out?
@juliette Nope. Am strong man. Strong man destroyed lock.
For real though: there's no easy way to alert people of this. And this is the second Talgo toilet door that I've heard of getting stuck (conductor said there was another one this morning).
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@Pepijn but did they fix the straps on the baby changing tables?
@juliette >but did they fix the straps on the baby changing tables?
I looked at five toilets with changing tables. Here's the result:
- accessibility toilet: fully out of commission
- 1 normal toilet: all fine
- 3 normal toilets: child changing tables straps broken or missing
With the ONE handicapped toilet out of commission I feel for the guy in the wheelchair on his 4 hr trip.
At least one member of the train staff is even angrier than me.
#DSB #CrossBorderRail #bahn for the future
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Ok. Am out. Doorlock is a goner on this one..
I so absolutely strongly dislike these shitty trains.
How the hell did international travel go from "quiet well functional comfortable passenger cabin" to "stuck in the smelly tiny toilet of a brand new train, requiring the strength of a strong adult to break out"
@Pepijn phew! Why are some bathroom locks just awful? Nobody needs that stress.
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Ok. Am out. Doorlock is a goner on this one..
I so absolutely strongly dislike these shitty trains.
How the hell did international travel go from "quiet well functional comfortable passenger cabin" to "stuck in the smelly tiny toilet of a brand new train, requiring the strength of a strong adult to break out"
@Pepijn wait, it that a normal 2-position turning switch instead of a 3-position switch (locked, open, emergency open)? Maybe there is something in the toilet standard about this.
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@Pepijn wait, it that a normal 2-position turning switch instead of a 3-position switch (locked, open, emergency open)? Maybe there is something in the toilet standard about this.
@RensBloom I'm not exactly sure how the mechanism locks.
There's a mechanical connection with at least some locking mechanism at the top of the doorframe. There might be another in the sliding door mechanism.
From the inside there's just two positions. I've tried three more (am curious / pissed now) and on all the locking mechanism feels "disconnected".
No passenger facing emergency option btw.
I might look into it more if I can find some time (am working).
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@RensBloom I'm not exactly sure how the mechanism locks.
There's a mechanical connection with at least some locking mechanism at the top of the doorframe. There might be another in the sliding door mechanism.
From the inside there's just two positions. I've tried three more (am curious / pissed now) and on all the locking mechanism feels "disconnected".
No passenger facing emergency option btw.
I might look into it more if I can find some time (am working).
The locks are absolutely not intuitive: one of the bathrooms I opened had a rather shocked woman using it..
This is a thing I did not expect nor remember the first time on these Talgo trains. I wonder if it's caused by some modifications they've done recently: there's a "soft brushy seal" on most doors* that I don't remember before.
*one door doesn't have it, and the material used is not consistent.
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@Pepijn I'm dying to try out these Talgo units to experience all this chicanery first hand. But really makes you wonder why DSB would acquire such poor rolling stock. Interestingly I haven't heard as much trouble from the DB units.
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Ok. Am out. Doorlock is a goner on this one..
I so absolutely strongly dislike these shitty trains.
How the hell did international travel go from "quiet well functional comfortable passenger cabin" to "stuck in the smelly tiny toilet of a brand new train, requiring the strength of a strong adult to break out"
Ok. I just walked through the entire train to check the state of the child changing facilities. See next post.
As I did so I opened TWO toilets that had people in them. This is also for units without broken locks: it's just a really bad non-intuitive design. Here's a video where.
To be fair: this is probably more the fault of Talgo (it's a fricking toilet door, I think humanity mastered that technology) than that of DSB.
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Ok. I just walked through the entire train to check the state of the child changing facilities. See next post.
As I did so I opened TWO toilets that had people in them. This is also for units without broken locks: it's just a really bad non-intuitive design. Here's a video where.
To be fair: this is probably more the fault of Talgo (it's a fricking toilet door, I think humanity mastered that technology) than that of DSB.
@Pepijn so it doesn't lock at all?
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Ok. I just walked through the entire train to check the state of the child changing facilities. See next post.
As I did so I opened TWO toilets that had people in them. This is also for units without broken locks: it's just a really bad non-intuitive design. Here's a video where.
To be fair: this is probably more the fault of Talgo (it's a fricking toilet door, I think humanity mastered that technology) than that of DSB.
Result of a walk through the train. There's seven toilets with child changing facilities. One of these is located in the accessibility toilet.
Only ONE is functional. It's all the way at one end of the train in first class.
The other six are all not fully ok. Four because the strap is broken (one of those also doesn't have a functional luck).
One has the foldout changing table stuck.
The sixth, the disability toilet, is fully "out of order".
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@juliette >but did they fix the straps on the baby changing tables?
I looked at five toilets with changing tables. Here's the result:
- accessibility toilet: fully out of commission
- 1 normal toilet: all fine
- 3 normal toilets: child changing tables straps broken or missing
With the ONE handicapped toilet out of commission I feel for the guy in the wheelchair on his 4 hr trip.
At least one member of the train staff is even angrier than me.
#DSB #CrossBorderRail #bahn for the future
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@simonjust Yup. Especially practical (at times required) as these are very narrow tables.
As a wheelchair user you'd have been miserable on today's train. What annoys me about the accessibility toilet specifically is that it was broken from the start, and already many hours before the train even arrived in Hamburg.
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@simonjust I have had customers wanting to do breakdance while on a changing table, but I have never seen the actual use for restraints @Pepijn @juliette
as a wheelchair user I too have had bad experiences with DSB.