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Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software.

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  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

    Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

    Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

    digipooch@lgbtqia.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #27

    @libreoffice I had a feeling that when you say 'no ai included by default' you meant that you do keep a nook open for it, though.

    and it looks like that is the case.
    you people made Libreoffice without slop before now. lose your principles, but maybe also be honest about it.

    and don't say you check each slop line, either

    we know you don't. we know your reviewers and the submitters will not.

    if you can't even write it, you don't know it, and if you don't know it, giving it a 'look over' is useless.

    I could write rocket launch code with ai
    and maybe I'd give it a look over before I launch it
    but that doesn't mean I knew what to look for, it doesn't mean I could understand a vulnerability if I saw it
    and maybe my rocket could get people killed
    (inb4 'don't worry, ai is used to check the ai's work!')

    what ai makes it slop
    whether you review the ai, or not

    maybe libreoffice would like to purchase the finest of my NFTs?
    I also have a few bridges

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    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

      Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

      Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

      thisisfroggie@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #28

      @libreoffice contributors doing a pinky promise in how they aren't using the slop machine in the way the slop machine encourages everyone to use it doesn't make those contributions any less slop.

      In addition to that, it does nothing to make you less complicit with all the shockingly excessive CO2 production, hurdles in adoption of green energy, exploitation of workers in the training process, forced deskilling of specialised workers, financing and legitimisation of the most egregious corporations who are eagerly collaborating openly with fascist governments and contributing to war crimes, and transfer of wealth from individuals to these massive corporations and billionaires, among other issues that I probably forgot to include.

      Do you really want to allow contributions that gave this kind of impact in the world? Changing your contribution guidelines to forbid AI contributions has both a positive impact in the development process and a positive impact in the world around. I ask you to reconsider this and make a change for the better, everyone will celebrate it the same way they celebrated the first article about not having slop features in the suite.

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      • svavar@masto.svavar.comS svavar@masto.svavar.com

        @barubary

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

        @serak

        barubary@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #29

        @svavar @serak Nah, 'twas a fair question.

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        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

          Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

          Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

          tcd@oldbytes.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #30

          @libreoffice If the person can explain the code they can write it themselves. I really don't see the point

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          • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

            Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

            Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

            solitarywalker@writing.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #31

            @libreoffice I like this. The person submitting the change needs to understand it, in order to take responsibility for it. And it allows people to be honest about AI use instead of forcing them to hide it, which would be the effect of a ban. Good place to draw the line.

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            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

              Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

              Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

              sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #32

              @libreoffice But you are accepting slop. Reviewed and understood (is it though?) slop is still slop. Take a fucking stand, cowards.

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              • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                ferroxo@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #33

                @libreoffice I'm sorry, but I switched from MS Office suite to LibreOffice explicitly to avoid LLM utilization at all levels. This doesn't inspire confidence at all.

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                • barubary@infosec.exchangeB barubary@infosec.exchange

                  @libreoffice So why don't you enforce your "strict policy" on submissions? I went through some random LibreOffice core commits and found three that used LLMs. None of them actually followed this policy.

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                  #34

                  @barubary Exactly. When did saying “No” to something become so taboo? Especially when there are legitimate concerns about this “technology”? Grow spines, yall.

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                  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                    Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                    Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                    antonius@phpc.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #35

                    @libreoffice ai generation is slop. Shame on you

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                    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                      Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                      Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                      burningtyger@nrw.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #36

                      @libreoffice Explaing every line requires another person to listen or read that explanation to every line which in turn could also be produced by ai. This is how it's done these days.

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                      • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                        Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                        Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                        laukidh@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #37

                        @libreoffice but this is yet another lie. You have told us you accept slop, you’re just pretending it isn’t sloppy.

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                        • solitarywalker@writing.exchangeS solitarywalker@writing.exchange

                          @libreoffice I like this. The person submitting the change needs to understand it, in order to take responsibility for it. And it allows people to be honest about AI use instead of forcing them to hide it, which would be the effect of a ban. Good place to draw the line.

                          davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #38

                          @solitarywalker @libreoffice or you could ban and shame liars when you catch them, that works too

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                          • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                            Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                            Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                            usbtypesteve@infosec.exchangeU This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #39

                            @libreoffice If you say you don't use AI, you don't use AI. Period. You are using AI which directly contradicts what you previously said. Questions?

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                            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                              Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                              Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                              #40

                              @libreoffice blocking your account because clearly all you’re doing is spreading misinformation now

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                              • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                piepants@famichiki.jpP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #41

                                @libreoffice I absolutely love when open source projects go on the defensive and twist themselves up like a pretzel over fucking semantics. You can't use "no slop" as a marketing stunt and then welcome it with open arms when it comes to submissions.

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                                • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                  Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                  Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                  lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #42

                                  @libreoffice anything coming out of genai is slop; regurgitated human creations

                                  please don't burn the planet and devalue human creations

                                  please ban all slop (which means all genai/llm)

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                                  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                    Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                    Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                    efi@chitter.xyzE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #43

                                    @libreoffice contributing to the destruction of the planet is not very libre

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                                    • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                      @libreoffice anything coming out of genai is slop; regurgitated human creations

                                      please don't burn the planet and devalue human creations

                                      please ban all slop (which means all genai/llm)

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                                      #44

                                      @libreoffice please don't redefine "slop" to mean that some genai outputs somehow aren't slop. it's all slop, because it's soulless

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                                      • piepants@famichiki.jpP piepants@famichiki.jp

                                        @libreoffice I absolutely love when open source projects go on the defensive and twist themselves up like a pretzel over fucking semantics. You can't use "no slop" as a marketing stunt and then welcome it with open arms when it comes to submissions.

                                        gornes@mastodon.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #45

                                        @piepants Hello, I checked out your profile and thought I'd stop by and say hello. How's your day going?

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                                        • gornes@mastodon.worldG gornes@mastodon.world

                                          @piepants Hello, I checked out your profile and thought I'd stop by and say hello. How's your day going?

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                                          #46

                                          @Gornes Ha, no. You've got balls spamming an admin.

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