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  • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

    Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

    #MachineSociety

    paulatothepeople@climatejustice.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
    paulatothepeople@climatejustice.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @MikeElgan I'd love to see stats added on how much profit they create for the fossil industry and how much funding they get from the fossil industry.

    Because that's the AI buisness model. Without AI we'd have energy transition.

    PS: Also alt text would be nice for inclusivity (not AI written of course).

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    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

      #MachineSociety

      dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @MikeElgan So Nvidia's making a killing...?!

      dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD normjess@tech.lgbtN 2 Replies Last reply
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      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

        #MachineSociety

        n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @MikeElgan

        The Internet was losing money for at least 20 years.

        sstrader@masto.aiS max@gruene.socialM jay_peper@chaos.socialJ 3 Replies Last reply
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        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

          #MachineSociety

          deepfryed@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @MikeElgan wait a sec, are you saying Elon might be the smarter one here ? 😂

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          • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

            @MikeElgan

            The Internet was losing money for at least 20 years.

            sstrader@masto.aiS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @n_dimension @MikeElgan Yeah, I sold my stock in Internet too early. Right before leadership at Internet brought it around and started turning a profit.

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            • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

              Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

              #MachineSociety

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              azad@toot.community
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              #7

              @MikeElgan I don't doubt that they will get all that money back, by selling it to the public, business, or get all the public's money by selling it to the government.
              History has enough examples.

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              • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                #MachineSociety

                oliver_schafeld@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                "Good Lord, where are they getting the money for this?"

                And then you scroll up and that one single massive green bar…

                🫨

                https://isaiprofitable.com

                If the difference between red and green bar is the multiplier one can expect for any AI service subscription these companies offer, ouch.

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                • sstrader@masto.aiS sstrader@masto.ai

                  @n_dimension @MikeElgan Yeah, I sold my stock in Internet too early. Right before leadership at Internet brought it around and started turning a profit.

                  n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @sstrader @MikeElgan

                  I have old print mags with "Internet" mastheads.

                  That'd pretty much what's inside.
                  Carnivores trying to monetise it

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                  • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @harib_murshidi @MikeElgan

                    The internet.

                    You know, the nuclear resilient comms network.

                    You must have heard if it.

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                    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                      #MachineSociety

                      bit@ohai.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @MikeElgan I just Love Meta's ROI.

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                      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                        #MachineSociety

                        ah_99@mastodonapp.ukA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        ah_99@mastodonapp.uk
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                        #12

                        @MikeElgan
                        The set up costs are high (data centres etc) ... question is the on going operational costs... and how they will profit from users at the cost of our energy. Revenue streams will be generated through sponsored AI results.

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                        • paulatothepeople@climatejustice.socialP paulatothepeople@climatejustice.social

                          @MikeElgan I'd love to see stats added on how much profit they create for the fossil industry and how much funding they get from the fossil industry.

                          Because that's the AI buisness model. Without AI we'd have energy transition.

                          PS: Also alt text would be nice for inclusivity (not AI written of course).

                          sebastian@norrebro.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          sebastian@norrebro.space
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                          #13

                          @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan

                          That's one aspect - #AI as a fossil fuel support industry.
                          Secondly, killing off the free information web, journalism, art, creativity for good - that's worth the initial losses.

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                          • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                            Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                            #MachineSociety

                            psyhackological@fosstodon.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #14

                            @MikeElgan they're so generous for us

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                            • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                              @MikeElgan So Nvidia's making a killing...?!

                              dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
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                              #15

                              @dancingtreefrog
                              In a gold rush sell the shovels.

                              …only that in this rush the leftover shovels can't be used for something else at the same scale.

                              Edit: unless by “making a killing” you mean “planning to murder us all for profit”.

                              @MikeElgan

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                              • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                #MachineSociety

                                dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #16

                                @MikeElgan
                                CC: @davidgerard

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                                • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                  Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                  #MachineSociety

                                  elpasyou_2@mastodon.onlineE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #17

                                  @MikeElgan
                                  And who's holding the neadle?

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                                  • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                    Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                    #MachineSociety

                                    piiiepsbrummm@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @MikeElgan #ALT4you
                                    Partial screenshot of the linked page. It lists companies investing into AI. It shows as a bar chart how much they spent and earned from the technology. The list is sorted by spending.

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                                    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                      #MachineSociety

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                                      #19

                                      @MikeElgan For them it is ok as long as they can still fire people, makeing folks addicted, selling there Shit (their philosophie) for true to consumers, pretend that machines can be creative and emphatic. This is the biggest fake news industry ever.

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                                      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                        #MachineSociety

                                        rhodium103@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @MikeElgan
                                        That Meta income rounding down to zero is the funniest. The company that's running its flagship website into the ground and spent billions on a VR 'verse that they canned after a month can't make income from AI? I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

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                                        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                          #MachineSociety

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                                          #21

                                          @MikeElgan Hmm I wonder who's benefiting from all this wasteful bullshit

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