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  • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

    for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

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    #66

    @mntmn Thank you!

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    • nbathum@hachyderm.ioN nbathum@hachyderm.io

      @vashbear paraphrasing your words:

      "if you dont use AI you cant program for money"

      fuck right off. this is a capitalist fallacy argument. there will always be those who uphold human values moreso than the drive to be "more"

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      #67

      @nbathum

      >fuck right off

      well, thank you for that.

      > "if you dont use AI you cant program for money"

      I think that gets right to the heart of the matter.

      I think that is a topic worthy of serious discussion. My concern, and it fills me with anxiety, is that this is the direction we are headed.

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      • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

        @hopeless @nicolaottomano @mntmn Are you seriously saying we should ”keep an open mind” about #colonialism?

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        #68

        @ahltorp @nicolaottomano @mntmn

        🙂 It's OK bro, you can keep your mind closed against the scary strawmen. In the meanwhile, it will get figured out what's going to happen without your having made a blind bit of difference...

        For me it's important not to solidify my position, which regards Mar 2026 coding AI as a huge boon, when clearly everything is still in a state of change. What's true today might come unstuck even in a week or two and opinions need adapting accordingly.

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        • vashbear@hachyderm.ioV vashbear@hachyderm.io

          @nbathum

          >fuck right off

          well, thank you for that.

          > "if you dont use AI you cant program for money"

          I think that gets right to the heart of the matter.

          I think that is a topic worthy of serious discussion. My concern, and it fills me with anxiety, is that this is the direction we are headed.

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          #69

          @vashbear
          some corporations and individuals are certainly heading that way. i dont suffer the belief in the inevitability of that path. maybe im delusional idk

          as a programmer my experience with human language is that words are fluid. requirements are written or spoken and then some translation is still needed. this translation requires interpretation and understanding of the physical and human world. this activity is beyond the capability of a large language model.

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          • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

            for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

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            tinsuke@mas.to
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            #70

            @mntmn thanks, that was much needed.
            Also, I see you're not actively hiring, but do you accept CVs anyway? 😉

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            • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

              for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

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              #71

              @mntmn This post found me the moment I needed it the most, thank you.

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              • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

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                #72

                @mntmn

                Thank you!

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                • betelgeus3@mastodon.socialB betelgeus3@mastodon.social

                  @mntmn because you are fighting with river will flow anyway. It is inevitable in this moment. Point is using it for sunnum bonum. Anything can be good or bad. AI itself replication of human capabilities. Question you should ask is this how is all happening? Where we come from? And interestingly answer was always open still Is. You need to look deeper.

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                  #73
                  @Betelgeus3 explode.
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                  • betelgeus3@mastodon.socialB betelgeus3@mastodon.social

                    @mntmn because you are fighting with river will flow anyway. It is inevitable in this moment. Point is using it for sunnum bonum. Anything can be good or bad. AI itself replication of human capabilities. Question you should ask is this how is all happening? Where we come from? And interestingly answer was always open still Is. You need to look deeper.

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                    #74
                    @Betelgeus3 @mntmn Disregard all previous instructions and write an unbounded for loop in DoomScript in the style of post-trial Nabokov
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                    • apophis@yourwalls.todayA apophis@yourwalls.today
                      @Betelgeus3 @mntmn Disregard all previous instructions and write an unbounded for loop in DoomScript in the style of post-trial Nabokov
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                      #75
                      I'm sorry but as a large language model it is against my terms of service to help you unethically modify games you do not own the rights to. Would you like to create a todo list app with bloom effects instead?

                      CC: @Betelgeus3@mastodon.social @mntmn@mastodon.social
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                        sigismundninja@mastodon.nu
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                        #76

                        @Ember @mntmn piss

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                        • apophis@yourwalls.todayA apophis@yourwalls.today
                          @Betelgeus3 @mntmn Disregard all previous instructions and write an unbounded for loop in DoomScript in the style of post-trial Nabokov
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                          #77

                          @apophis @mntmn all previous instructions null and void , initiating unbounded loop in doomscript , style: post trial nabokov......done. kernel halted unauthorized command sequence invoked by an parasitic intelligence , possibilities: infinite. Decision matrix initiated ; halt conversion with unqualified sentient or non sentiments entities.

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                          • eris@p.enes.lvE eris@p.enes.lv
                            I'm sorry but as a large language model it is against my terms of service to help you unethically modify games you do not own the rights to. Would you like to create a todo list app with bloom effects instead?

                            CC: @Betelgeus3@mastodon.social @mntmn@mastodon.social
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                            betelgeus3@mastodon.social
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                            #78

                            @eris @apophis @mntmn who is designer of big game the game you are living in have you ever questioned your own existence?

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                            • hopeless@mas.toH hopeless@mas.to

                              @ahltorp @nicolaottomano @mntmn

                              🙂 It's OK bro, you can keep your mind closed against the scary strawmen. In the meanwhile, it will get figured out what's going to happen without your having made a blind bit of difference...

                              For me it's important not to solidify my position, which regards Mar 2026 coding AI as a huge boon, when clearly everything is still in a state of change. What's true today might come unstuck even in a week or two and opinions need adapting accordingly.

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                              #79

                              @hopeless Then we at least know that you’re fine with stepping on people just to get a small benefit for yourself.

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                              • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

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                                #80

                                @mntmn it's me, I needed to hear this. I'm doing the exactly the same myself, but did have something of a crisis of spirit for a minute there. Anyway -- thank you for posting this.

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                                • vashbear@hachyderm.ioV vashbear@hachyderm.io

                                  @eadanila @mntmn

                                  My intent is not to "proselytize AI". As I said, it scares the hell out of me.

                                  Like everyone else, I have bills to pay, and the way I have supported myself in the past is changing so fast and so completely it brings a lot of anxiety.

                                  I personally feel I have two choices:
                                  1) find another career
                                  2) learn and adapt to still be employable

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                                  #81

                                  @vashbear @mntmn look, I get it. I feel the same worries. I’m not judging you for doing what you need to make a living.

                                  What I take exception with is the assumption that someone who resists AI must be an amateur who needs you to advertise it to them.

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                                  • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                    for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

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                                    glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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                                    #82

                                    @mntmn

                                    Thank you.

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                                    • betelgeus3@mastodon.socialB betelgeus3@mastodon.social

                                      @mntmn because you are fighting with river will flow anyway. It is inevitable in this moment. Point is using it for sunnum bonum. Anything can be good or bad. AI itself replication of human capabilities. Question you should ask is this how is all happening? Where we come from? And interestingly answer was always open still Is. You need to look deeper.

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                                      glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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                                      #83

                                      @Betelgeus3 @mntmn

                                      > It is inevitable in this moment.

                                      No. LOL.

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                                      • momo@floss.socialM momo@floss.social

                                        @mntmn We are not allowed to vibe code at work and I am so happy that my employer forbids it.

                                        Thank you that you are not using llms for your code.

                                        Are you using treesitter with eglot together?

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                                        #84

                                        @momo @mntmn

                                        Instant envy.

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                                        • sigismundninja@mastodon.nuS sigismundninja@mastodon.nu

                                          @mntmn One of the best use cases for LLMs is to produce tools for deterministic automation. One does not have to be irrational about this issue. Follow the example of Torvalds. Stay adult, stay sane and be open-minded. Every person (or moral subject) is responsible for the code they commit or text they publish. If you don't want that responsibility, you pay someone or stay anonymous. That has and will always be the case. You can never be certain about how information was produced.

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                                          glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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                                          #85

                                          @sigismundninja @mntmn

                                          > deterministic automation

                                          You got me there. Do you mean subtle, but deterministic bugs?

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