Some guy named Luigi is back in court today in NYC.
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Some guy named Luigi is back in court today in NYC.
Topic of the hearing is the admissibility of illegally obtained "evidence" during the pretextual stop at a Pennsylvania McDonald's.
Mangione's lawyers continue to demand that the police actually produce the witnesses who ID'd Luigi.
They also point out how scared these cops are of Luigi looking normal in court. He's so shackled he can't even take notes at trial!
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Some guy named Luigi is back in court today in NYC.
Topic of the hearing is the admissibility of illegally obtained "evidence" during the pretextual stop at a Pennsylvania McDonald's.
Mangione's lawyers continue to demand that the police actually produce the witnesses who ID'd Luigi.
They also point out how scared these cops are of Luigi looking normal in court. He's so shackled he can't even take notes at trial!
One thing that is really impressive about Luigi Mangione's legal team is that they are actively making the legal process as accessible for the average person to follow as possible.
All of the documents they can publicly release are posted on the website below so you can read pretty much the entire case for yourself.
Love Luigi or hate him this is an important resource to understand how courts and cops operate in practice.
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One thing that is really impressive about Luigi Mangione's legal team is that they are actively making the legal process as accessible for the average person to follow as possible.
All of the documents they can publicly release are posted on the website below so you can read pretty much the entire case for yourself.
Love Luigi or hate him this is an important resource to understand how courts and cops operate in practice.
Some updates from court. In Luigi's PA Mc'Ds arrest paperwork the cops who arrested him plainly state that they searched all of his belongings in the actual paperwork to request a search warrant to go through his belonging's.
Which needless to say is not how warrants are supposed to work.
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Some updates from court. In Luigi's PA Mc'Ds arrest paperwork the cops who arrested him plainly state that they searched all of his belongings in the actual paperwork to request a search warrant to go through his belonging's.
Which needless to say is not how warrants are supposed to work.
For some reason the prosecution wants us all to know that Luigi Mangione offered a prison guard a copy of "Doors of Perception" by Aldous Huxley.
So yea that's the update, Luigi overshared to a cop. The cop reported he didn't read the book bc he doesn't care. (notably Luigi wasn't read his rights at this point so we're not sure why this convo is even admissible at all)
For some reason the prosecution thinks this helps wash down their other illegal evidence I guess
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For some reason the prosecution wants us all to know that Luigi Mangione offered a prison guard a copy of "Doors of Perception" by Aldous Huxley.
So yea that's the update, Luigi overshared to a cop. The cop reported he didn't read the book bc he doesn't care. (notably Luigi wasn't read his rights at this point so we're not sure why this convo is even admissible at all)
For some reason the prosecution thinks this helps wash down their other illegal evidence I guess
It's then reported that, Luigi, the guard and most of the courtroom laughed when the guard said he didn't care about reading books.
So anyways, in preparation for this latest round of court showdowns its easy to see everyone involved is trying to improve their image.
Who can blame UHC for all the seasonal prepwork for dropping seniors off their healthcare plans next year. What a way to shutdown the ole' "evil corporation" rumours.
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It's then reported that, Luigi, the guard and most of the courtroom laughed when the guard said he didn't care about reading books.
So anyways, in preparation for this latest round of court showdowns its easy to see everyone involved is trying to improve their image.
Who can blame UHC for all the seasonal prepwork for dropping seniors off their healthcare plans next year. What a way to shutdown the ole' "evil corporation" rumours.
Day 2 of the Luigi Mangione NYC pre-trial hearings are underway.
A raft of dirty cops are giving statements but before the legal details I hear the most newsworthy part of today's updates will likely be the release of more photos of Luigi at trail.
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Day 2 of the Luigi Mangione NYC pre-trial hearings are underway.
A raft of dirty cops are giving statements but before the legal details I hear the most newsworthy part of today's updates will likely be the release of more photos of Luigi at trail.
The key witness today is Detective Joseph Detwiler, a dirty local cop.
So of course at the time Luigi didn't know this was a dirty cop. But this was a dirty cop whose probably fucked up the whole case.
Det Detwiler is the officer who demanded Luigi's ID (the first part of the illegal stop+search) and reviewed it, allegedly bc he was in McD's too long.
This initial stop was a pretext and during such police interactions its actually legal to use a fake name and possibly even ID in Pa.
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The key witness today is Detective Joseph Detwiler, a dirty local cop.
So of course at the time Luigi didn't know this was a dirty cop. But this was a dirty cop whose probably fucked up the whole case.
Det Detwiler is the officer who demanded Luigi's ID (the first part of the illegal stop+search) and reviewed it, allegedly bc he was in McD's too long.
This initial stop was a pretext and during such police interactions its actually legal to use a fake name and possibly even ID in Pa.
Now the thing is, Luigi when informed that he was under some sort of "official investigation" and that Detwiler believed he used a fake name Luigi promptly and immediately gave his real name.
Luigi later explained that he was homeless and simply provided what ID he had, which was fake.
Why the interaction didn't end with Luigi simply being allowed to leave McD's (possibly minus a fake ID) legal experts aren't sure.
That is until we read about the Supreme Court case Detwiler lost...
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Now the thing is, Luigi when informed that he was under some sort of "official investigation" and that Detwiler believed he used a fake name Luigi promptly and immediately gave his real name.
Luigi later explained that he was homeless and simply provided what ID he had, which was fake.
Why the interaction didn't end with Luigi simply being allowed to leave McD's (possibly minus a fake ID) legal experts aren't sure.
That is until we read about the Supreme Court case Detwiler lost...
So you see Detective Detwiler is THE dirty PA cop who set the latest state Superior Court precedent on what constitutes an illegal pre-textual stop
And this dumbass "detective" is today's star witness on why Luigi's illegal pre-textual stop and all the illegally gathered evidence is actually A-OK.
I don't wanna jinx it... but good god I don't think it takes a rockstar attorney to know how to pull at this thread.
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So you see Detective Detwiler is THE dirty PA cop who set the latest state Superior Court precedent on what constitutes an illegal pre-textual stop
And this dumbass "detective" is today's star witness on why Luigi's illegal pre-textual stop and all the illegally gathered evidence is actually A-OK.
I don't wanna jinx it... but good god I don't think it takes a rockstar attorney to know how to pull at this thread.
In that previous case, useless cop Detective Detwiler, got called to a noise complaint inside of a building.
Some how he took it upon himself to select a random person outside near the building to investigate and instigated a foot chase for no known reason at all.
Even his police report from the day recounts that he selected this person NOT bc of the noise at all.
He never even made contact with the building he was initially called to for the noise complaint.
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In that previous case, useless cop Detective Detwiler, got called to a noise complaint inside of a building.
Some how he took it upon himself to select a random person outside near the building to investigate and instigated a foot chase for no known reason at all.
Even his police report from the day recounts that he selected this person NOT bc of the noise at all.
He never even made contact with the building he was initially called to for the noise complaint.
In that similar PA case Detwiler eventually chased and subdued a random bystander and recovered a firearm and drugs.
The problem is that Detective Detwiler was called for a noise complaint, had NO description of the person at all and had no reason to be suspicious of this person other than the fact they were existing in a "high crime area"
All of this evidence was thrown out and Pennsylvania courts had to explain to Detwiler exactly where he fucked up.
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In that similar PA case Detwiler eventually chased and subdued a random bystander and recovered a firearm and drugs.
The problem is that Detective Detwiler was called for a noise complaint, had NO description of the person at all and had no reason to be suspicious of this person other than the fact they were existing in a "high crime area"
All of this evidence was thrown out and Pennsylvania courts had to explain to Detwiler exactly where he fucked up.
Now if this weren't all bad enough and dear readers I could understand a few sweet summer children thinking:
"maybe it was JUST one bad apple, its been a few years maybe they got better"
And if that's you, might wanna sit down for this one but here's a story hot off the Altoona presses showing that NO. These local cops have no fucking clue what the constitution is at all.
Detwiler is alleged to have been present, I can't confirm due to cop secrecy.
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Now if this weren't all bad enough and dear readers I could understand a few sweet summer children thinking:
"maybe it was JUST one bad apple, its been a few years maybe they got better"
And if that's you, might wanna sit down for this one but here's a story hot off the Altoona presses showing that NO. These local cops have no fucking clue what the constitution is at all.
Detwiler is alleged to have been present, I can't confirm due to cop secrecy.
Much like that older Altoona case, this most recent one parallels Luigi's case on the issues of when a person must ID themselves to cops.
In this case the cops were called bc of neighbors arguing(their neighbors karened out and called the cops).
The cops say they showed up "to hear both sides" and some how ended up illegally entering an apartment and beating+arresting a man who was not even involved in the initial report.
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Much like that older Altoona case, this most recent one parallels Luigi's case on the issues of when a person must ID themselves to cops.
In this case the cops were called bc of neighbors arguing(their neighbors karened out and called the cops).
The cops say they showed up "to hear both sides" and some how ended up illegally entering an apartment and beating+arresting a man who was not even involved in the initial report.
Court just let out so there's a lot of updates from reporters OTG to read. One quick update from Inner City Press say the object to the Judge's decision today to seal much of the evidence that's being debated over.
Reporter Matthew Russell Lee says this sealing of records is a violation of press freedom and did not provide a time for journalists to object to being shutout of the evidence.
https://www.patreon.com/MatthewRussellLee#InnerCityPress #MatthewRussellLee #Journalism #NYC #Luigi #PressFreedom
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Court just let out so there's a lot of updates from reporters OTG to read. One quick update from Inner City Press say the object to the Judge's decision today to seal much of the evidence that's being debated over.
Reporter Matthew Russell Lee says this sealing of records is a violation of press freedom and did not provide a time for journalists to object to being shutout of the evidence.
https://www.patreon.com/MatthewRussellLee#InnerCityPress #MatthewRussellLee #Journalism #NYC #Luigi #PressFreedom
Luigi Mangione is back in court after the judge took Wednesday off from the case.
The judge's day off however turned into a minor legal battle of its own as local journalists who write about court cases were initially barred from accessing certain evidence documents.
It sounds like the judge was convinced to follow typical court processes and release most content to the public.
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