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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

    https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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    #70
    @nixCraft@mastodon.social
    Have DuckDuckGo considered switching their AI powered "Search Assistant" to "On Demand" by default, then?
    https://duckduckgo.com/settings#aifeatures
    No?
    🙃
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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      I have seen this before with their forced Google+ adoption game. Users aren't adopting Google AI at the rate shareholders or C suits expect, so they now force the adoption at the cost of search engine. Just like Google+ died out, this forced AI mode in Google search is going to die and I hope it will be the end of the company as well.

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      #71

      @nixCraft grep the binaries (main and support libraries) of your fav internet browser for "google" I bet it comes up more than a few times.

      This isn't good.

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

        https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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        #72

        @nixCraft I like this but I wish DuckDuckGo did not conflate usage with "installs" like this – as if the only way to change search engine is to install a new browser…

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

          https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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          #73

          @nixCraft

          It's also time NOT to let Giggle or its peers buy DuckDuckGo and turn it into the dog's breakfast it serves up instead of a privacy-friendly browser.

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

            https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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            #74

            @nixCraft With all the Rx uncertainty (my client has to go without morphine approx a full week every 2-3 months), I have been researching options and I only do that on DDG.

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

              https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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              #75

              @nixCraft I gotta be honest, when I go to google.com to search, which isn’t my default I’ve been using ecosia for years, I still just see normal search results and get a list of links to various sites. I see a new tab for “AI mode” but it’s not the default

              Am I missing something with all this? The news I see makes it sound like old google search isn’t available anymore, but that doesn’t match with what I see, are folks out there seeing the AI stuff as the default?

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #76

                @nixCraft Duckduckgo is bing, and when microslop follow google lead they also are dead.

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                • greenpepper22@mastodon.socialG greenpepper22@mastodon.social

                  @nixCraft I gotta be honest, when I go to google.com to search, which isn’t my default I’ve been using ecosia for years, I still just see normal search results and get a list of links to various sites. I see a new tab for “AI mode” but it’s not the default

                  Am I missing something with all this? The news I see makes it sound like old google search isn’t available anymore, but that doesn’t match with what I see, are folks out there seeing the AI stuff as the default?

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #77

                  @greenpepper22 @nixCraft they anounced it in their google I/O and started rolling out in the US

                  The time it's expended (and the cache pass) it can take week / month before it's completly rolled out).

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                  • darkphoenix@universeodon.comD darkphoenix@universeodon.com

                    @nixCraft With all the Rx uncertainty (my client has to go without morphine approx a full week every 2-3 months), I have been researching options and I only do that on DDG.

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                    #78

                    @Darkphoenix @nixCraft so you in fact did it on bing as DDG is bing with an extra step

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                    • wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.ukW wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.uk

                      @shaedrich @nixCraft Yes, but when you do, it almost begs you not to " But you'll lose all these useful things☆, are you sure?" and you need to confirm it, so not a single kill switch, after all.
                      This is despite the results of a user survey that overwhelmingly dismissed AI in the browser.
                      I am not saying that either of them are right to do this, just pointing out the difference in the implementation.

                      ☆Most of which aren't really that useful.

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                      #79

                      @wyliecoyoteuk @shaedrich @nixCraft but DDG is not a search engine tough ... they simply are a Bing front-end

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                      • hidikem@piaille.frH hidikem@piaille.fr

                        @greenpepper22 @nixCraft they anounced it in their google I/O and started rolling out in the US

                        The time it's expended (and the cache pass) it can take week / month before it's completly rolled out).

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                        #80

                        @hidikem @nixCraft ahhh so I’m just lucky and they haven’t foisted it upon me yet. I’ll have to check it out again in a few weeks then

                        I am slowly trying to de-google my life, but goddamn some the services are still useful and straightforward to use. YouTube and maps in particular are pretty up there, but I could probably stand to watch a lot less youtube so maybe ill have to end that for my mental health

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                        • greenpepper22@mastodon.socialG greenpepper22@mastodon.social

                          @hidikem @nixCraft ahhh so I’m just lucky and they haven’t foisted it upon me yet. I’ll have to check it out again in a few weeks then

                          I am slowly trying to de-google my life, but goddamn some the services are still useful and straightforward to use. YouTube and maps in particular are pretty up there, but I could probably stand to watch a lot less youtube so maybe ill have to end that for my mental health

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                          #81

                          @greenpepper22 @nixCraft for youtube you can try to move out when possible and use alternative front end, like piped or invidious for the one you cannot live without.

                          So you use youtube ... without youtube.

                          Me i let youtube website app behind when they started to "force" login to prove you are not a bot (not like google own recapcha for this purpose).

                          So i use alt front end to bypass this bullying to accept their crappy TOS.

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                          • hidikem@piaille.frH hidikem@piaille.fr

                            @greenpepper22 @nixCraft for youtube you can try to move out when possible and use alternative front end, like piped or invidious for the one you cannot live without.

                            So you use youtube ... without youtube.

                            Me i let youtube website app behind when they started to "force" login to prove you are not a bot (not like google own recapcha for this purpose).

                            So i use alt front end to bypass this bullying to accept their crappy TOS.

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                            #82

                            @hidikem @nixCraft I might have to look into that

                            I am def a desktop user vs mobile user for youtube so that might be easier for getting around logins and app usage

                            Maps however I am full mobile and I’ve checked out some alternatives and google is still miles ahead of anyone in terms of UI last time I checked. That one I might be stuck in for a while.

                            Gmail I gotta change, but email clients seem much easier to switch

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                              https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                              #83

                              @nixCraft My head has been elsewhere. I've been using Safari/duck for years. I go there when Vivaldi hits a website that's blocked. I'm too lazy to go in.
                              It's worse installed ... I had no intention of doing that again. But it will be toasted and uninstalled shortly.

                              Ugh. People are just losing their brains.

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                              • greenpepper22@mastodon.socialG greenpepper22@mastodon.social

                                @hidikem @nixCraft I might have to look into that

                                I am def a desktop user vs mobile user for youtube so that might be easier for getting around logins and app usage

                                Maps however I am full mobile and I’ve checked out some alternatives and google is still miles ahead of anyone in terms of UI last time I checked. That one I might be stuck in for a while.

                                Gmail I gotta change, but email clients seem much easier to switch

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                                #84

                                @greenpepper22 @nixCraft for mobile use fdroid and install newpipe

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                                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                  DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                                  https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                                  #85

                                  @nixCraft Duckduckgo isn't ai-free though?

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                                  • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                                    @nixCraft Duckduckgo isn't ai-free though?

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                                    #86

                                    @renardboy @nixCraft if you access it through noai.duckduckgo.com it doesn't show ai summaries.

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                                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                      DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                                      https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                                      #87

                                      @nixCraft I switched to noai.duckduckgo.com - I love it!

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                                      • abramkedge@beige.partyA abramkedge@beige.party

                                        @renardboy @nixCraft if you access it through noai.duckduckgo.com it doesn't show ai summaries.

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                                        #88

                                        @AbramKedge @nixCraft That is very true, nevermind.

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                                        • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                                          @AbramKedge @nixCraft That is very true, nevermind.

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                                          #89

                                          @renardboy @nixCraft you just reminded me that somehow the noai option slid off of my phone's Vivaldi settings, I'm down a rabbit hole right now 😄

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