When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.
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Scientists generally want you to know, the people that finance their work on the other hand? It depends on how marketable is the discovery
@csolisr I've never personally experienced or even remotely heard of a funder trying to influence the results of a study (and been a scientist for about 15 years now). I'm sure it can happen but it will be a negligible minority.
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@jascha they want you to know so bad, they've devised a whole elaborate system around publishing their research.
They're holding regular conferences and publish everything that's been presented there as "proceedings".
They _teach_ at public institutions to make sure more people know each year.
They want you to know! That's literally their job
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@jascha Lest they be working more for profit, than higher ethics.
I went to school with a couple of eventual billionaire lobbyists. Quite bright scientists.
@numodular @jascha "quite bright" is "dim".
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha I'm going to spend hundreds of hours and hundreds of thousands of euros to find this thing out, and then I'm just gonna not tell anyone what I spent the hundreds of hours and hundreds of thousands of euro to find out. My little secret
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha Married to a scientist. Toot personally verified.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
It’s kind of funny for anyone to make that assertion in a publish or perish world
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha I can confirm this - my brother is a biochemist and he has one research project he was on that he still tells people about at bus stops.
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@crazyeddie @GutterPoetry @jascha now, derptron, if you wish to call me an ass because of that point, that's on you.
At least you did not call me a misogynist. That was the obvious trap.
Misogyny exists. The problem is what needs to be addressed regardless of intent, and that is bigger than all of us.
Good talk.
@knowprose I believe it's a systemic vs individual issue thing. Systemic bias is not intentional, but also harder to spot than individual prejudice. Like how me and many other women who consider themselves modern feminists still perpetuate(d) a "deal with it" attitude regarding period pain, which discourages those with very painful cysts and endometriosis from seeking diagnosis. Not intentional, but we need to do better
I'm sorry to hear about your father and hope he still could get treatment.
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@diazona @dougiec3 @jascha Not just cancer either. It’s kind of a general things. Yes it’s tongue in cheek
But it’s why there’s phases etc. I don’t think most are aware of how medical research works, they just see the (BS) headlines.(I don’t have the know how to understand medical research etc. Just know a bit about parts of the process as a guinea pig.)
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@diazona @dougiec3 @jascha Not just cancer either. It’s kind of a general things. Yes it’s tongue in cheek
But it’s why there’s phases etc. I don’t think most are aware of how medical research works, they just see the (BS) headlines.(I don’t have the know how to understand medical research etc. Just know a bit about parts of the process as a guinea pig.)
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha
Dont look up or Idiocracy?
Global warming: Humanity? Well done. -
When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha Today I learned I'm a scientist.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
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@jascha TBH, I've never heard the phrase "Scientists do not want you to know" spoken or written before today.
Joys of picking and choosing my life in a sane community/city/state/family.@joemug @jascha it's a big thing on most social media/youtube. Make some extreme claim of some miracle product that "scientists have been hiding" to sell some snakeoil through an affiliate link or personal store, or just completely made up for the views and ad revenue.
You can also replace scientist with "gardener", "mechanic" whatever and see much the same, and the related "I stopped going to the store/etc and do X instead" tagline.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha I recently heard about Radiation Hormesis, or the theory (as in scientific theory backed by data and currently under testing and review) that some radiation in your environment is actually good because it stimulates DNA repair mechanisms that also tend to catch and repair DNA damage from other causes like oxidative stress.
They badly want you to know, you can google Radiation Hormesis... But they also want you to know that the data isn't quite fully in yet.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
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@csolisr I've never personally experienced or even remotely heard of a funder trying to influence the results of a study (and been a scientist for about 15 years now). I'm sure it can happen but it will be a negligible minority.
@elduvelle @csolisr Influencing the results is one thing, but there is definitely a bias in funding bodies towards funding research that will show short-term economic benefit over research that will have longer-term or non-economic benefit.
