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  3. i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

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  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

    i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

    (not emacs or vim)

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    #16

    @b0rk I guess there's gnu's `info`... And of course each `man` implementation is different; I'm partial to openbsd's, but it is the antithesis of fancy.

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    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

      i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

      (not emacs or vim)

      ladytel@masto.hackers.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #17

      @b0rk I use batman. It has colors and syntax highlighting

      https://github.com/eth-p/bat-extras/blob/master/doc/batman.md

      Edit: should have read the replies to not be caller number 5 linking to the same thing

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      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

        @krans i'm happy for emacs users but I am never going to use emacs so no 🙂

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        #18

        @b0rk @krans Girl!

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        • rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR rjbs@social.semiotic.systems

          @b0rk Ugggggh if you find a good answer, please repost it with a bright red light. I think the biggest issue is that the roff format is too bankrupt, and we need better linking primitives, but… I might just be jaded.

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          #19

          @rjbs @b0rk So we first need to convert roff to something useful?

          (As someone who wrote an RTF to XML converter once in XSLT and Java I am not volunteering.)

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          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

            i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

            (not emacs or vim)

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            #20

            @b0rk batman from bat ?

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            • aerique@genart.socialA aerique@genart.social

              @rjbs @b0rk So we first need to convert roff to something useful?

              (As someone who wrote an RTF to XML converter once in XSLT and Java I am not volunteering.)

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              #21

              @aerique @b0rk A tool that consumes roff will (I believe) never be good. (We could change roff but no.) We want a tool that reads something better and can fall back to roff. We can't convert roff-to-gooddoc.

              Texinfo was meant to be that, but (I would say) failed. A subset of HTML could replace it. (And Texinfo can compile to HTML.) You'd then want a tool that know how to find the html for a given command/name.

              It's "easy" except for the xkcd 927 problem. Sorry, this is not constructive.

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                #22

                @doekman it's so nice! my dream is that somehow someone has made something like that for the terminal

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                • rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR rjbs@social.semiotic.systems

                  @aerique @b0rk A tool that consumes roff will (I believe) never be good. (We could change roff but no.) We want a tool that reads something better and can fall back to roff. We can't convert roff-to-gooddoc.

                  Texinfo was meant to be that, but (I would say) failed. A subset of HTML could replace it. (And Texinfo can compile to HTML.) You'd then want a tool that know how to find the html for a given command/name.

                  It's "easy" except for the xkcd 927 problem. Sorry, this is not constructive.

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                  #23

                  @rjbs @b0rk Oh it is constructive. I'd never looked at roff.

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                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                    i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                    (not emacs or vim)

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                    #24

                    qman looks interesting but on my machine it takes several seconds to start https://github.com/plp13/qman

                    arrakeen_urbanite@universeodon.comA xmanmonk@mastodon.sdf.orgX 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                      i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                      (not emacs or vim)

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                      #25

                      @b0rk I use [bat](https://github.com/sharkdp/bat) with this env var `export MANPAGER="sh -c 'col -bx | bat --language man --plain'"`
                      This look like this.

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                      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                        qman looks interesting but on my machine it takes several seconds to start https://github.com/plp13/qman

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                        #26

                        @b0rk Appears to be coded in C. Perhaps it is a good target for re-implementation in Rust or Go?

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                        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                          qman looks interesting but on my machine it takes several seconds to start https://github.com/plp13/qman

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                          #27

                          @b0rk Looks like a nice tui version of xman, which is one of my favorite guis.

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                          • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                            @b0rk there's GNU `info` but I think you were probably asking about *good* ones 😖

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                            #28

                            @SnoopJ @b0rk also pinfo ( https://github.com/baszoetekouw/pinfo ), which is at least different.

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                            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                              i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                              (not emacs or vim)

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                              #29

                              @b0rk https://github.com/filiparag/wikiman
                              or I also use Television for fuzzy finding and then opening the pages in bat with man.

                              https://alexpasmantier.github.io/television/

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                              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                                (not emacs or vim)

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                                #30

                                @b0rk Maybe something like manx? It's for macOS but it is just a bash script so maybe it could be tweaked for other platforms.

                                https://github.com/jakshin/manx

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                                • rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR rjbs@social.semiotic.systems

                                  @b0rk Ugggggh if you find a good answer, please repost it with a bright red light. I think the biggest issue is that the roff format is too bankrupt, and we need better linking primitives, but… I might just be jaded.

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                                  #31

                                  @rjbs @b0rk this was my first thought lol. roff is incredibly cursed

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                                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                    i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                                    (not emacs or vim)

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                                    #32

                                    @b0rk Not replace, but this script opens in a PDF viewer:

                                    https://www.softwolves.com/wolfblog/2024/11/19/making-man-pages-easier-to-read/

                                    I did write a simple HTML man page render back at university (1997), I wonder if I still have the sources for that...

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                                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                      i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                                      (not emacs or vim)

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                                      #33

                                      @b0rk tangent: I've been using Linux for 27 years but I'm still unclear on why sometimes typing "man 5 {command}" gives me a different and more detailed man page.

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                                      • literatesavant@mastodon.auL literatesavant@mastodon.au

                                        @b0rk tangent: I've been using Linux for 27 years but I'm still unclear on why sometimes typing "man 5 {command}" gives me a different and more detailed man page.

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                                        #34

                                        @b0rk (now I know the answer)

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                                        • literatesavant@mastodon.auL literatesavant@mastodon.au

                                          @b0rk (now I know the answer)

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                                          #35

                                          @literatesavant what's the answer?

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