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I propose a navigation plugin for the AI slop era.

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  • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

    I propose a navigation plugin for the AI slop era. Tool should help us find LLM-free sites based on Web of Trust crowd verification. Browsing the web, you label a site as either free from or polluted by LLM slop. One button in your browser toolbar with a keyboard shortcut. An icon indicates how the community assesses the page. Let's rid ourselves of the constant suspicion that all we read is AI-generated bullshit and put the collective intelligence to work.

    Could someone build this?

    #FediBrain

    giuda_ballerino@kolektiva.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @malte I like the idea in theory—we need something to help filter out the garbage. But this could go sideways fast.

    A friend of mine does surreal art and has for years. Since the AI explosion, people keep accusing him of using AI. His actual art. That he's been making since before DALL-E was even a thing. It just happens to look weird and dreamlike, so now everyone's suspicious.

    That's what worries me about crowd-sourcing this. People would flag anything that feels AI-ish, even if it's just someone with an unusual style. Experimental writers, non-native speakers, artists doing anything unconventional—they'd all get caught in the crossfire. And once you're flagged, good luck shaking that off.

    Plus "AI slop" vs "content I personally don't like" is going to blur together real fast. Mob mentality isn't exactly known for nuance.

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    • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

      I propose a navigation plugin for the AI slop era. Tool should help us find LLM-free sites based on Web of Trust crowd verification. Browsing the web, you label a site as either free from or polluted by LLM slop. One button in your browser toolbar with a keyboard shortcut. An icon indicates how the community assesses the page. Let's rid ourselves of the constant suspicion that all we read is AI-generated bullshit and put the collective intelligence to work.

      Could someone build this?

      #FediBrain

      swope@mstdn.plusS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @malte
      I had similar ideas, but how do you prevent someone from signing up a bunch of bots into the community to sway the votes on sites up or down?

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      • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

        I propose a navigation plugin for the AI slop era. Tool should help us find LLM-free sites based on Web of Trust crowd verification. Browsing the web, you label a site as either free from or polluted by LLM slop. One button in your browser toolbar with a keyboard shortcut. An icon indicates how the community assesses the page. Let's rid ourselves of the constant suspicion that all we read is AI-generated bullshit and put the collective intelligence to work.

        Could someone build this?

        #FediBrain

        diffdude@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9

        @malte what browser do you use? I can start writing a plugin

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        • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

          I propose a navigation plugin for the AI slop era. Tool should help us find LLM-free sites based on Web of Trust crowd verification. Browsing the web, you label a site as either free from or polluted by LLM slop. One button in your browser toolbar with a keyboard shortcut. An icon indicates how the community assesses the page. Let's rid ourselves of the constant suspicion that all we read is AI-generated bullshit and put the collective intelligence to work.

          Could someone build this?

          #FediBrain

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          #10

          @malte I’m assuming you don’t want it to wait for some review process, but rather collect live feedback.

          This might be a legitimate use case for a “just throw a blockchain-ish thing at it” solution.

          Basically, a distributed event log of pseudonymized claims that can be synchronized on a whim. Can be additionally weighted locally based on private reactions to resulting classifications.

          Abusable, but could be resistant to hostile takeover.

          PS: I’m probably wrong!

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          • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

            I propose a navigation plugin for the AI slop era. Tool should help us find LLM-free sites based on Web of Trust crowd verification. Browsing the web, you label a site as either free from or polluted by LLM slop. One button in your browser toolbar with a keyboard shortcut. An icon indicates how the community assesses the page. Let's rid ourselves of the constant suspicion that all we read is AI-generated bullshit and put the collective intelligence to work.

            Could someone build this?

            #FediBrain

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            #11

            @malte
            Good idea.
            Until someone does build it https://kottke.org/25/07/the-kottkeorg-rolodex provides links to some good sites written by real people

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            • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

              I propose a navigation plugin for the AI slop era. Tool should help us find LLM-free sites based on Web of Trust crowd verification. Browsing the web, you label a site as either free from or polluted by LLM slop. One button in your browser toolbar with a keyboard shortcut. An icon indicates how the community assesses the page. Let's rid ourselves of the constant suspicion that all we read is AI-generated bullshit and put the collective intelligence to work.

              Could someone build this?

              #FediBrain

              pkal@social.sdfeu.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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              pkal@social.sdfeu.org
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              #12

              @malte Reminds me of https://shinigami-eyes.github.io/

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              • curiouscat@fosstodon.orgC curiouscat@fosstodon.org

                @malte
                Good idea.
                Until someone does build it https://kottke.org/25/07/the-kottkeorg-rolodex provides links to some good sites written by real people

                malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @curiouscat Yes, it's the federated version of those lists in a way

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                • diffdude@mstdn.socialD diffdude@mstdn.social

                  @malte what browser do you use? I can start writing a plugin

                  malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  @diffdude Awesome. I'm one of those who's on Firefox.

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                  • giuda_ballerino@kolektiva.socialG giuda_ballerino@kolektiva.social

                    @malte I like the idea in theory—we need something to help filter out the garbage. But this could go sideways fast.

                    A friend of mine does surreal art and has for years. Since the AI explosion, people keep accusing him of using AI. His actual art. That he's been making since before DALL-E was even a thing. It just happens to look weird and dreamlike, so now everyone's suspicious.

                    That's what worries me about crowd-sourcing this. People would flag anything that feels AI-ish, even if it's just someone with an unusual style. Experimental writers, non-native speakers, artists doing anything unconventional—they'd all get caught in the crossfire. And once you're flagged, good luck shaking that off.

                    Plus "AI slop" vs "content I personally don't like" is going to blur together real fast. Mob mentality isn't exactly known for nuance.

                    malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #15

                    @giuda_ballerino I join your concern. Did you see my extra comment? I think your friend should be able to add some evidence or documentation that their work is indeed not LLM-generated. The very problem, that we constantly suspect this, is what we want to find solutions to. https://radikal.social/@malte/115400418825934736

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                    • swope@mstdn.plusS swope@mstdn.plus

                      @malte
                      I had similar ideas, but how do you prevent someone from signing up a bunch of bots into the community to sway the votes on sites up or down?

                      malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #16

                      @swope In another project I've benefited a lot from, some users have higher influence on the score based on previous ability to judge correctly. In such a scenario, those bots would lose their influence. I was hoping someone could describe this better. It has to be a WEB of trust, so we use some kind of discrimination mechanism on users too.

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