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  3. Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring.

Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring.

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  • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

    Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring. They have the same writing and design style, their illustrations look the same, and their ideas are all predictable

    They’re even starting to sound the same on video, even when unmediated by a model

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    #10

    @baldur The revolution will be homogeneous.

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    • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

      Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring. They have the same writing and design style, their illustrations look the same, and their ideas are all predictable

      They’re even starting to sound the same on video, even when unmediated by a model

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      #11

      @baldur I don’t do YouTube, but I’ve come to recognize the diction and the cadences of AI narration from the continuous drone coming up from the basement, where my husband is half-watching history videos while snoozing.

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      • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

        Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring. They have the same writing and design style, their illustrations look the same, and their ideas are all predictable

        They’re even starting to sound the same on video, even when unmediated by a model

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        #12

        @baldur I'm starting to more view the novel anti-ai movements in terms of herseiology, maleficarum and the apocalyptic traditions.

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        • robinsyl@meow.socialR robinsyl@meow.social

          @baldur has anyone written an article about LLMs as a zombie infection

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          #13

          @robinsyl @baldur I like that analogy, I am going to start using it from now on instead of "collective psychosis"

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          • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

            Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring. They have the same writing and design style, their illustrations look the same, and their ideas are all predictable

            They’re even starting to sound the same on video, even when unmediated by a model

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            #14

            @baldur I don't think this is necessarily true. I do however think that continued interaction with LLMs whether willing or not will have an impact and shape people's perception and way of thinking/behaving. Much as we're susceptible to repeated patterns outside of LLMs.

            I have someone close to me that I do not in any way consider boring.

            They are a vibrant and hardworking person, but I've still heard them regurgitate the gospel of the tech bros "You're going to fall behind if you don't.".

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            • robinsyl@meow.socialR robinsyl@meow.social

              @baldur has anyone written an article about LLMs as a zombie infection

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              #15

              @robinsyl @baldur

              ”Dawn of the Data Centers”

              ”28 Tokens Later”

              ”The CEO with All the Gifts”

              ”Night of the Vibing Dead”

              Not sure if I’d watch any of these, though.

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                @robinsyl @baldur

                ”Dawn of the Data Centers”

                ”28 Tokens Later”

                ”The CEO with All the Gifts”

                ”Night of the Vibing Dead”

                Not sure if I’d watch any of these, though.

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                #16

                @unkx @robinsyl @baldur

                The scripts are produced by LLMs. And the visuals "vibed" with Generative AI.

                So, ...

                NOPE!

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                • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                  Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring. They have the same writing and design style, their illustrations look the same, and their ideas are all predictable

                  They’re even starting to sound the same on video, even when unmediated by a model

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                  #17

                  @baldur From a cultural perspective, LLMs makes everything uniform, in the worst way possible. As the output is all very uniform, it influences its users to be the same. There was research not too long ago that showed that LLMs affected the users' thoughts, and that this didn't change even if people were aware of this phenomena.

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                  • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                    Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring. They have the same writing and design style, their illustrations look the same, and their ideas are all predictable

                    They’re even starting to sound the same on video, even when unmediated by a model

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                    #18

                    @baldur I mean I thought douchy tech bros all sounded the same even before LLMs. 🤷

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                    • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                      Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring. They have the same writing and design style, their illustrations look the same, and their ideas are all predictable

                      They’re even starting to sound the same on video, even when unmediated by a model

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                      #19

                      @baldur At a recent software conference, I was bracing for one of the keynotes to be especially bad... and it *did* fill out my entire "AI tropes that induce despair or rage" bingo card. But it was actually much more "meh" than "argh", because the talk was so clearly written and/or edited by LLM. It was a bland echo of someone trying to copy a brash opinionated persona, made even funnier because a decade ago this speaker would've easily hit the tone he seemed to be aiming for.

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                      • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                        Even if you disregard, y’know everything, LLM fans are still fundamentally boring. They have the same writing and design style, their illustrations look the same, and their ideas are all predictable

                        They’re even starting to sound the same on video, even when unmediated by a model

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                        #20

                        @baldur now I really want to see a study following people as they start to use LLMs more, to see if their everyday speech starts to have less variety, maybe of vocabulary or sentence construction.

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                        • 707kat@mastodon.art7 707kat@mastodon.art

                          @baldur I don't think this is necessarily true. I do however think that continued interaction with LLMs whether willing or not will have an impact and shape people's perception and way of thinking/behaving. Much as we're susceptible to repeated patterns outside of LLMs.

                          I have someone close to me that I do not in any way consider boring.

                          They are a vibrant and hardworking person, but I've still heard them regurgitate the gospel of the tech bros "You're going to fall behind if you don't.".

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                          @baldur Here's to me realising that this could be applied to a number of my familiars in hindsight. I was writing about someone specifically close to me, but I know several people this could describe.

                          All of them vibrant and kind, but unwilling to accept what they are doing and participating in is harmful. If there's anything they do have in common it's that they want to "see the positive in everything" and are 'doers' rather than analytically inclined.

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                          • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                            That feeling when LLM fans reply to the above post and prove exactly the point you were trying to make.

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                            @baldur you look like you have really exhausting opinions about bottle conditioned beer

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                            • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                              @baldur I mean I thought douchy tech bros all sounded the same even before LLMs. 🤷

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                              @dalias Too true.

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                              • slyence@mastodo.neoliber.alS slyence@mastodo.neoliber.al

                                @baldur you look like you have really exhausting opinions about bottle conditioned beer

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                                #24

                                @Slyence You sound like somebody who gets their opinion from a chatbot

                                (These days I exclusively drink domestic beer from a can, for the record.)

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                                • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                                  @Slyence You sound like somebody who gets their opinion from a chatbot

                                  (These days I exclusively drink domestic beer from a can, for the record.)

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                                  #25

                                  @baldur you smile by grimacing

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                                    #26

                                    @Dangerous_beans @baldur

                                    Beautiful example of my point 🙏

                                    I think one or two other interactions more could continue the ping-pong of empty arguments

                                    That's super entertaining and interesting. I am really fond of enriching conversations

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