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  • delta@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    Telegram is an extreme security risk for its users, its developers and operators, holding data and metadata for over a billion people on central servers!

    Our decentralized zero-metadata messaging approach is diametrically opposed to such big-platform designs https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero

    But there is more: #chatmail relays are zero-state: you can wipe the relay's disks, create a new fresh setup, and users just continue chatting. Operators have actually done this. An *actually* state-less server 🙂

    mvilain@sfba.socialM b_rain@troet.cafeB gedankenstuecke@scholar.socialG bjornsdottirs@evokegts.umbrellix.orgB 4 Replies Last reply
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    • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

      Telegram is an extreme security risk for its users, its developers and operators, holding data and metadata for over a billion people on central servers!

      Our decentralized zero-metadata messaging approach is diametrically opposed to such big-platform designs https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero

      But there is more: #chatmail relays are zero-state: you can wipe the relay's disks, create a new fresh setup, and users just continue chatting. Operators have actually done this. An *actually* state-less server 🙂

      mvilain@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @delta Luckily the only thing I used Telegram for was to send me a link to download F-Droid.

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      • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

        Telegram is an extreme security risk for its users, its developers and operators, holding data and metadata for over a billion people on central servers!

        Our decentralized zero-metadata messaging approach is diametrically opposed to such big-platform designs https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero

        But there is more: #chatmail relays are zero-state: you can wipe the relay's disks, create a new fresh setup, and users just continue chatting. Operators have actually done this. An *actually* state-less server 🙂

        b_rain@troet.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
        b_rain@troet.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @delta Love the hand-drawn illustrations!

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        • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

          Telegram is an extreme security risk for its users, its developers and operators, holding data and metadata for over a billion people on central servers!

          Our decentralized zero-metadata messaging approach is diametrically opposed to such big-platform designs https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero

          But there is more: #chatmail relays are zero-state: you can wipe the relay's disks, create a new fresh setup, and users just continue chatting. Operators have actually done this. An *actually* state-less server 🙂

          gedankenstuecke@scholar.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
          gedankenstuecke@scholar.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @delta congrats, that's some great progress!

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          • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

            Telegram is an extreme security risk for its users, its developers and operators, holding data and metadata for over a billion people on central servers!

            Our decentralized zero-metadata messaging approach is diametrically opposed to such big-platform designs https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero

            But there is more: #chatmail relays are zero-state: you can wipe the relay's disks, create a new fresh setup, and users just continue chatting. Operators have actually done this. An *actually* state-less server 🙂

            bjornsdottirs@evokegts.umbrellix.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
            bjornsdottirs@evokegts.umbrellix.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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            @delta wouldn't that be state-optional technically?

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            • bjornsdottirs@evokegts.umbrellix.orgB bjornsdottirs@evokegts.umbrellix.org

              @delta wouldn't that be state-optional technically?

              delta@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
              delta@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @bjornsdottirs maybe! or "ephemeral-state-only" or "automatic state-loss recoverability"? When we get to do a full architecture/security doc, we will need to refine terminology , for sure.

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