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How far back in time can you understand English?

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  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

    How far back in time can you understand English?

    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

    "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

    https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

    #english #language

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    melia_runs_nyc@masto.nyc
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    #74

    @Natasha_Jay would love to hear someone read this aloud

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    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

      How far back in time can you understand English?

      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

      #english #language

      dendu68@social.vivaldi.netD This user is from outside of this forum
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      dendu68@social.vivaldi.net
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      #75

      @Natasha_Jay

      Very Interesting.. thanks for sharing. 👍🏾

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      • H harrymutt@social.vivaldi.net

        @Natasha_Jay

        Interestingly, as a German, I can understand quite a lot of the very old texts. But my mother had a PHD in English and French and knew a lot about old Germanic sagas and medieval German literature. So, that is nothing foreign to me.

        If you read anything from Walther von der Vogelweide, you will clearly see the similarities to the oldest texts. Words and grammar are recognizable, and if you can read one, you can read the other.

        But even in Shakespeare's time, you will find a lot of those common roots of our languages, and if you get used to the different spelling, the sound of it rings familiar. And as late as in Jane Austen's times, even the number format was still the same as in German, for instance, four-and-twenty and not twenty-four.

        After all, with all the lost grammar and words, modern English is just a watered-down version of old German.
        😉

        thalia@discuss.systemsT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #76

        @HarryMutt @Natasha_Jay I made it through 1200 without too much effort. 1100 felt like I was reading my Walther von der Vogelweide book, but after comparing now, the Mittelhochdeutsch there is much easier to understand. By 1000, the vocabulary had shifted enough I couldn't discern much by reversing the shifts I know.

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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          How far back in time can you understand English?

          It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

          "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

          https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

          #english #language

          eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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          eetschrijver@mastodon.social
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          #77

          @Natasha_Jay Thank you for introducing me to this fascinating blog!

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          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

            How far back in time can you understand English?

            It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

            "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

            https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

            #english #language

            evin@gts.yujiri.xyzE This user is from outside of this forum
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            evin@gts.yujiri.xyz
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            #78

            @Natasha_Jay "environs" is my favorite word so far

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            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

              How far back in time can you understand English?

              It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

              "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

              https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

              #english #language

              mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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              mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca
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              #79

              @Natasha_Jay I could read 1200 with difficulty, but nothing older.

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              • beatricejess@masto.bikeB beatricejess@masto.bike

                @Natasha_Jay but much more easier written than spoken !

                Here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842OX2_vCic

                Well I 'm lost until modern English

                peachfront@toot.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #80

                @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay

                when the kite picked up the chicken, i heard the word chicken clear as day, so that was around 950 to even get the first word & i understood nothing much else for a few more centuries...

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                • beatricejess@masto.bikeB beatricejess@masto.bike

                  @Natasha_Jay but much more easier written than spoken !

                  Here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842OX2_vCic

                  Well I 'm lost until modern English

                  sab@hostux.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  sab@hostux.social
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                  #81

                  I picked up right away that the guy was a lousy farmer with no cows, so pretty happy about that!

                  I guess it helps being a Scandinavian who understands German, has Scottish friends, and knows enough Dutch to know what a bauer is. There's a lot of words from all over the place.
                  @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay

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                  • mab_813@fedi.atM mab_813@fedi.at

                    @Thumper1964 @Natasha_Jay @WeirdWriter

                    For those interested, Samuel Pepys is also in the Fediverse: @samuelpepys

                    He's a 17th century guy so he can really be a sexist asshole. He's an interesting person to follow, not many people from the 17th century around here 😉

                    thumper1964@mindly.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #82

                    @Mab_813 @Natasha_Jay @WeirdWriter @samuelpepys Sexist asshole is right! On many days in his diary he very strongly insinuates that he practices, shall we say, extracurricular activities with many women not his wife. Still fascinating, though. Definitely a different time and place.

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                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                      How far back in time can you understand English?

                      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                      #english #language

                      sgt1372@sfba.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      sgt1372@sfba.social
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                      #83

                      @Natasha_Jay Started losing me in 1500 & totally lost me in 1400 but I didn't try to get any father than that. 🤷‍♂️

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                      • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                        @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay

                        when the kite picked up the chicken, i heard the word chicken clear as day, so that was around 950 to even get the first word & i understood nothing much else for a few more centuries...

                        sebastian@social.itu.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        sebastian@social.itu.dk
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                        #84

                        @peachfront @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay

                        i love this.

                        i got the "swine" from day one, and the chicken soon after 😂

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