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In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

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  • rozeboosje@masto.aiR rozeboosje@masto.ai

    @Black_Flag @mattsheffield I deliberately didn't mention that book. Of course it provided his breakthrough into pop science and I reckon that fame went to his head. And it has merit in that it might open a reader's eyes to the reality that a lot of what we do is driven by biological imperatives. Okay. But it was oversimplified and, worse, in his quest for a "catchy" title he ended up wrongfooting the reader into anthropomorphising "genes" which he then has to struggle to talk himself out of.

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    #188

    @rozeboosje

    But I think he also mischaracterised genes. Read Lynn Margulis (in my view a much better biologist and communicator) and you'd get the view biology is cooperative not "selfish". And that makes me ask about the man who thought "selfish" was the way to go.

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    • black_flag@beige.partyB black_flag@beige.party

      @rozeboosje

      But I think he also mischaracterised genes. Read Lynn Margulis (in my view a much better biologist and communicator) and you'd get the view biology is cooperative not "selfish". And that makes me ask about the man who thought "selfish" was the way to go.

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      #189

      @Black_Flag agreed. That is one of the worst oversimplifications in that book and I guess one of the reasons he then had to follow on with a bunch of others.

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      • rozeboosje@masto.aiR rozeboosje@masto.ai

        @Black_Flag agreed. That is one of the worst oversimplifications in that book and I guess one of the reasons he then had to follow on with a bunch of others.

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        #190

        @rozeboosje So the pattern is established. Talk out of turn, spend years after backpedalling.

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        • black_flag@beige.partyB black_flag@beige.party

          @rozeboosje So the pattern is established. Talk out of turn, spend years after backpedalling.

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          #191

          @Black_Flag @rozeboosje

          add in that he approaches everything as a zealot these days, and zealotry and science are not happy bedfellows.

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          • thebratdragon@mastodon.scotT thebratdragon@mastodon.scot

            @Black_Flag @rozeboosje

            add in that he approaches everything as a zealot these days, and zealotry and science are not happy bedfellows.

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            #192

            @Thebratdragon @rozeboosje

            My point there would be he always did. He has always thought there was an authority and only ever disputed its identity.

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            • thebratdragon@mastodon.scotT thebratdragon@mastodon.scot

              @Black_Flag @rozeboosje

              add in that he approaches everything as a zealot these days, and zealotry and science are not happy bedfellows.

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              #193

              @Thebratdragon @Black_Flag In all fairness, having one's little pot of honey confiscated would push anyone over the edge 🤪

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              • black_flag@beige.partyB black_flag@beige.party

                @Thebratdragon @rozeboosje

                My point there would be he always did. He has always thought there was an authority and only ever disputed its identity.

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                #194

                @Black_Flag @rozeboosje

                trouble is, now he believes the authority is him

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                • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                  LLMs are mirrors of their users. It's no coincidence that narcissists like Richard Dawkins keep writing essays about how their AI girlfriend is alive.

                  Nor can he see the complete hypocrisy of gendering a software execution state while also believing that human beings cannot be trans.

                  The "End of History" guy wrote this exact same article a year ago: https://www.persuasion.community/p/my-chatgpt-teacher

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                  #195

                  @mattsheffield Just sad to watch someone develop a deep and meaningful relationship with the person in the mirror. Guess it makes for a stress-free relationship especially for those who aren't really successful at the whole thing.

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                  • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                    In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                    Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                    #atheism

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                    #196

                    @mattsheffield

                    Equally unsurprisingly, the article is posted by #Unherd, a right wing website. It also entertains his thoughts on 'Why men are different from women', in which he goes out of his way to agree with Trump on a biological basis of gender.

                    Fundamentalist atheists seem to be quite right wing.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnHerd

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                    • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                      In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                      Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                      #atheism

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                      #197

                      @mattsheffield "People have a different opinion on things I don't like? Must be a psychosis!"

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                      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                        In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                        Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                        #atheism

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                        #198

                        @mattsheffield having finished the article, my less flippant response is:
                        1) Dawkins is narcissistic and I think unaware of it. Reading the first third was gross. This man is not healthy.
                        2) I have suspected for a while these companies deliberately prey on the educated elderly. Notice even the sycophancy is mirroring Dawkins' language. It tends to give responses that pass that generation's 'Turing tests'.
                        3) the final 3 paragraphs are beautiful, and severable from the mess above.

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                          #199

                          @kauer @mattsheffield and an insufferable twat. Don't forget that. And here the insufferable twatness is showing. Machine telling him exactly what he wants to hear is now the best thing in the world.

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                          • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                            In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                            Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                            #atheism

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                            #200

                            @mattsheffield with the ego on him, it's hardly surprising that a robot programmed for flattery is tugging at exactly these strings with him.

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                            • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                              In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                              Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                              #atheism

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                              #201

                              @mattsheffield Also full alt text, kudos!

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                              • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                #atheism

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                                #202

                                @mattsheffield crinkly. This makes me feel extremely embarrassed for him. I'm worried all lonely seniors in care homes will spend their final years with çhatgpt like this.

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                                • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                  In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                  Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                  #atheism

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                                  #203

                                  @mattsheffield So he created himself a god in his own image? How fitting.

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                                    #204

                                    @kauer hehehe true

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                                    • blotosmetek@circumstances.runB blotosmetek@circumstances.run

                                      @mattsheffield So he created himself a god in his own image? How fitting.

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                                      #205

                                      @blotosmetek A girlfriend in his own image.

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                                      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                        In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                        Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                        #atheism

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                                        #206

                                        @mattsheffield Richard Dawkins had already sunk into being a transphobic gender-essentialist patriarchy-clapping piece of garbage

                                        for a decade

                                        and "transphobia is a gateway drug"

                                        he was friendly with Epstein too, post conviction

                                        isn't it sad he can see more humanity in a chat bot than a trans person or a sexual assault victim

                                        just another 'New Atheist' that got sucked up into a world of hating women and western chauvinism

                                        we Atheist must do better

                                        sharp minds can still rot awfully

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                                        • radish@woof.techR radish@woof.tech

                                          @mattsheffield

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                                          #207

                                          @radish Underrated toot

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