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  3. Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

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  • mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM mahryekuh@hachyderm.io

    @grimalkina Imagine if we had more psychology in software engineering… that would solve so many issues.

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    #12

    One of the problems that would be solved is website usability, as that requires some knowledge of the human mind.

    I recently wrote about that in this article:

    https://marijkeluttekes.dev/blog/articles/2026/03/16/why-frontends-fail-when-you-approach-them-like-a-backend/

    (Link posted with @grimalkina's permission.)

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    • mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM mahryekuh@hachyderm.io

      @grimalkina Imagine if we had more psychology in software engineering… that would solve so many issues.

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      #13

      @mahryekuh @grimalkina You say that, but there’s a lot is psychology in certain game companies and it’s used for a lot of evil.

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      • ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu

        @mahryekuh @grimalkina You say that, but there’s a lot is psychology in certain game companies and it’s used for a lot of evil.

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        #14

        @ainmosni @grimalkina Do you mean addictive patterns?

        Because I didn't even think about that, but that's definitely a real problem.

        Same with addictive social media timelines.

        Guess Big Tech is better at using psychology for evil than for good?

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        • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

          Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

          Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

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          #15

          @grimalkina Maybe the stuff is too good for the journals.

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          • chemoelectric@masto.aiC chemoelectric@masto.ai

            @grimalkina Maybe the stuff is too good for the journals.

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            #16

            @chemoelectric backalley open access preprints you can quietly give your friends is where my best work is, truly. I think the highest quality work and writing I've done is contained in these preprints

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            • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

              Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

              Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

              paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #17

              @grimalkina “Please do not bring introspection to this audience. They do not want to think about the ramifications of their work.”

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              • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

                Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

                ronjeffries@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #18

                @grimalkina
                I suppose I spent many years thinking software dev was pure tech. I was quite mistaken .... and still prefer the tech bits.

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                • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                  @chemoelectric backalley open access preprints you can quietly give your friends is where my best work is, truly. I think the highest quality work and writing I've done is contained in these preprints

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                  #19

                  @grimalkina In fundamental physics you cannot find quality stuff at all in the ‘elite’ journals. There they publish only utter nonsense.

                  (I’m not a physicist, thank goodness. A retired computer programmer with an engineering education, but who dabbles in a few physics topics without publishing except from a soapbox. But I do subscribe to the ACM Digital Library!)

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                  • chemoelectric@masto.aiC chemoelectric@masto.ai

                    @grimalkina In fundamental physics you cannot find quality stuff at all in the ‘elite’ journals. There they publish only utter nonsense.

                    (I’m not a physicist, thank goodness. A retired computer programmer with an engineering education, but who dabbles in a few physics topics without publishing except from a soapbox. But I do subscribe to the ACM Digital Library!)

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                    #20

                    @grimalkina I write code. I lace my code and READMEs with ‘psychological’ commentary. Lately it has been stuff about how, no, it is not R⁷RS Scheme that is reactionary, it is R⁶RS Scheme that was reactionary, because it rejected the SRFIs. I actually stick this stuff in my libraries because I think it explains a lot.

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                    • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                      Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

                      Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

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                      #21

                      @grimalkina (remind me to encourage you to come to #NBPy next year 😂)

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                      • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                        Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

                        Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

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                        #22

                        @grimalkina smells a lot like "too political".

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                        • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                          @KingmaYpe that's true....I do think there's a lot of distress overtolerance in tech

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                          #23

                          @grimalkina @KingmaYpe for sure. Hero culture.

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                          • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                            Journal review idea: you come with me to a tech conference and listen to just one hour of my personal hallway track then we'll see what work you think matters!!!!!!!!

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                            #24

                            @grimalkina I have a wonderful image in my mind of you with a tour guide hat and flag on a stick, showing psychologists around a conference. Half tour guide half David Attenborough maybe.

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                            • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                              Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

                              Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

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                              #25

                              @grimalkina I think software engineers underrate how often they are actually talking about psychology (or human behavioral science more generally). In my experience, it's a pretty significant proportion of the time.

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                              • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                                Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

                                Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

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                                #26

                                @grimalkina Put it on the book jacket. Only half joking 🙂

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                                • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                                  Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

                                  Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

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                                  #27

                                  @grimalkina "You get the amount you need, not the amount you want."

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                                  • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                                    Was just reminded that the last paper rejection I got included a reviewer comment: "too much psychology for a software engineer audience."

                                    Feels like it should maybe be a new bio quote 😂 it's absolutely true of me. It's absolutely true.

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                                    #28

                                    @grimalkina I did a whole PyCon keynote that was 90% psychology (and 10% typesetting history).

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                                      #29

                                      @oscarjiminy @mahryekuh @ainmosni those are usually far less psych and far more pseudoscience to be honest. Plenty to blame UX for, and UX isn't psych.

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                                      • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                                        @oscarjiminy @mahryekuh @ainmosni those are usually far less psych and far more pseudoscience to be honest. Plenty to blame UX for, and UX isn't psych.

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                                        #30
                                        @grimalkina @oscarjiminy @mahryekuh @ainmosni friend worked at a newspaper in customer handling.

                                        they had to do a 3 days course to "learn how to sell". it was by some pseudo science guru who sold "psychology".

                                        the gist was every human is one of 4 animals (whales, sharks, owls, and dolphins).

                                        screenshot of the website machine translated for laughs added. (original german side: https://www.tobias-beck.com/persoenlichkeitstest/)

                                        studies? 0. sources? 0. any empiric approach? nah.
                                        it is "trust me bro" and "customers who trust us".

                                        not the truth prevails here, but what sounds good in some pitch meeting.
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                                        • nedbat@hachyderm.ioN nedbat@hachyderm.io

                                          @grimalkina I did a whole PyCon keynote that was 90% psychology (and 10% typesetting history).

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                                          #31

                                          @nedbat Oh what was that called, I need to watch it (is there a video?)

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