As someone who worked on ad blocking extension, I can tell you Manifest v3 is designed to make this more difficult, limited over time with the intent to pretend "it still work".
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RE: https://cosocial.ca/@mhoye/116731613699722600
As someone who worked on ad blocking extension, I can tell you Manifest v3 is designed to make this more difficult, limited over time with the intent to pretend "it still work".
Blocklist quotas have been sized to match the current state. With no room to grow. And at the time it still required a complete extension review to update them (not sure this changed)
It's neither security nor performance.
This applies to Microsoft branded version and to Vivaldi. And any other Chromium based browser.
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RE: https://cosocial.ca/@mhoye/116731613699722600
As someone who worked on ad blocking extension, I can tell you Manifest v3 is designed to make this more difficult, limited over time with the intent to pretend "it still work".
Blocklist quotas have been sized to match the current state. With no room to grow. And at the time it still required a complete extension review to update them (not sure this changed)
It's neither security nor performance.
This applies to Microsoft branded version and to Vivaldi. And any other Chromium based browser.
Could uBlock Origin have better support of that more limited API?
Yes.
Is it worth it ?
It's up to their maintainer but it is far from being trivial so they made the choice to provide a minimal extension.
Could they have ALL the features ?
No.
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RE: https://cosocial.ca/@mhoye/116731613699722600
As someone who worked on ad blocking extension, I can tell you Manifest v3 is designed to make this more difficult, limited over time with the intent to pretend "it still work".
Blocklist quotas have been sized to match the current state. With no room to grow. And at the time it still required a complete extension review to update them (not sure this changed)
It's neither security nor performance.
This applies to Microsoft branded version and to Vivaldi. And any other Chromium based browser.
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RE: https://cosocial.ca/@mhoye/116731613699722600
As someone who worked on ad blocking extension, I can tell you Manifest v3 is designed to make this more difficult, limited over time with the intent to pretend "it still work".
Blocklist quotas have been sized to match the current state. With no room to grow. And at the time it still required a complete extension review to update them (not sure this changed)
It's neither security nor performance.
This applies to Microsoft branded version and to Vivaldi. And any other Chromium based browser.
@hub Back up, are they seriously arguing ad BLOCKERs are causing WORSE performance?
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RE: https://cosocial.ca/@mhoye/116731613699722600
As someone who worked on ad blocking extension, I can tell you Manifest v3 is designed to make this more difficult, limited over time with the intent to pretend "it still work".
Blocklist quotas have been sized to match the current state. With no room to grow. And at the time it still required a complete extension review to update them (not sure this changed)
It's neither security nor performance.
This applies to Microsoft branded version and to Vivaldi. And any other Chromium based browser.
@hub Edge still fully supports v2 AFAIK, no sketchy workarounds needed. My employer [redacted] banned Firefox a while back to "cut back on support load" and Edge is the only allowed one that can run the full version of UBO. (They also implied Mozilla doesn't update it frequently enough, but that's complete BS in my experience with how often it asks for a restart to update vs chrome...)
Though I'm not sure how hard of a fork it really is, so if upstream chrome starts rearranging the internals they may be forced to drop it as they pull improvements and bugfixes in... (If they're forced to drop it, I'll be sending some emails to our browser security team given how much malware is distributed via ads these days. The only reason I didn't complain about the firefox ban is that edge can still run UBO...)
EDIT: to be clear, I wouldn't recommend it in any way if Firefox is an option. Just pointing out that in certain situations it may be the "least bad" option when Firefox isn't allowed.
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RE: https://cosocial.ca/@mhoye/116731613699722600
As someone who worked on ad blocking extension, I can tell you Manifest v3 is designed to make this more difficult, limited over time with the intent to pretend "it still work".
Blocklist quotas have been sized to match the current state. With no room to grow. And at the time it still required a complete extension review to update them (not sure this changed)
It's neither security nor performance.
This applies to Microsoft branded version and to Vivaldi. And any other Chromium based browser.
@hub@cosocial.ca it’s the only reason to still use firefox
Enshittification is running on full steam, but still slightly slower than on chromium/webkit!
Would be great if we had some alternative browser engines left!
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@hub Back up, are they seriously arguing ad BLOCKERs are causing WORSE performance?
@disorderlyf they are arguing that the request blocking API can cause performance issue (true) and that the solution it just to remove it. That it is widely the main entry point for ad blocking is incidental, and that declarative blocking API is limited is just a way to pretend.
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@hub@cosocial.ca it’s the only reason to still use firefox
Enshittification is running on full steam, but still slightly slower than on chromium/webkit!
Would be great if we had some alternative browser engines left!
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RE: https://cosocial.ca/@mhoye/116731613699722600
As someone who worked on ad blocking extension, I can tell you Manifest v3 is designed to make this more difficult, limited over time with the intent to pretend "it still work".
Blocklist quotas have been sized to match the current state. With no room to grow. And at the time it still required a complete extension review to update them (not sure this changed)
It's neither security nor performance.
This applies to Microsoft branded version and to Vivaldi. And any other Chromium based browser.
@hub till someone feeds the binary to an ai to make it take the extension again and releases it as a 'crack'
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@jwcph this won't affect our built-in adblocker
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