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Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.

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  • regendans@todon.euR regendans@todon.eu

    @FediTips Would you mind adding a warning at the top of your tip page about groups ? For example : This page is no longer valid and will be updated in the near future. Thanks. https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/

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    #24

    @regendans

    Yeah, I'm just about to rewrite that!

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    • selea@social.linux.pizzaS selea@social.linux.pizza

      @FediTips

      holy shit, that's really crap

      @anonax

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      #25

      @selea

      It's a very, very odd policy, seems to be just begging domain squatters to exploit it.

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.

        The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog 😞

        However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:

        ➡️ https://about.fedigroups.social/home

        FediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.

        (More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )

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        #26

        @FediTips Perhaps a silly question: wouldn't a certain hashtag and it's subscription do everything that these gup.pe groups did? Like I begin #sillyGroupUsers and everybody would use that hashtag?

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        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

          @FediTips Perhaps a silly question: wouldn't a certain hashtag and it's subscription do everything that these gup.pe groups did? Like I begin #sillyGroupUsers and everybody would use that hashtag?

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          #27

          @NatureMC

          No, because hashtags don't actively push content to other servers.

          When you follow a hashtag, it's basically a filter for whatever is on your server anyway. If your server hasn't noticed a particular account yet, it won't notice that account's posts on that hashtag.

          When you follow a group, it actively pulls in all posts from anyone on any server that posts to that group.

          Groups are basically "super hashtags" in a way 🙂

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.

            The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog 😞

            However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:

            ➡️ https://about.fedigroups.social/home

            FediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.

            (More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )

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            #28

            @FediTips The warning about the "legal" steeling of the #guppe domain is also very important for all people who gave regular donations to the site! I'm sure they don't want to throw money at this guy.

            #groups #GuppeGroups #Fediverse #donations

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            • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

              @FediTips The warning about the "legal" steeling of the #guppe domain is also very important for all people who gave regular donations to the site! I'm sure they don't want to throw money at this guy.

              #groups #GuppeGroups #Fediverse #donations

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              #29

              @NatureMC

              To be fair, the maintainer has said they will cancel subs and issue refunds: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118#issuecomment-3263730414

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                p.s. For those wondering how this can happen, the .pe domain which gup.pe used has a highly unusual clause which allows anyone to buy the domain 12 days *before* it expires:

                "The .CH, .ES, .FR, .LI, .PE, .SG, .COM.SG, .COM.AU, .ORG.AU, .NET.AU TLDs must be renewed 12 days prior to the actual expiration date. If not renewed, the domain will enter the redemption stage right away regardless of the number of days left until expiration."

                https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9916/2207/tlds-grace-periods

                (Thanks @anonax for info!)

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                #30

                @FediTips @anonax

                What are the vendors alleged rationale for this egregiously abusive policy?

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.

                  The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog 😞

                  However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:

                  ➡️ https://about.fedigroups.social/home

                  FediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.

                  (More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )

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                  #31

                  @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                  Are they federated with Mastodon, and other platform

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                  • rinakochi@calckey.worldR rinakochi@calckey.world

                    @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                    Are they federated with Mastodon, and other platform

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                    #32

                    @Rinakochi

                    They were federated with Mastodon, there were problems federating with some other Fedi platforms though.

                    FediGroups is better for compatibility with other Fedi platforms.

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                    • resuna@ohai.socialR resuna@ohai.social

                      @FediTips @anonax

                      What are the vendors alleged rationale for this egregiously abusive policy?

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                      #33

                      @resuna

                      No idea! It makes no sense.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.

                        The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog 😞

                        However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:

                        ➡️ https://about.fedigroups.social/home

                        FediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.

                        (More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )

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                        #34

                        @FediTips fedigroups won't even get back to me even after using their submission form 😕

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                        • tkb0iz@sunny.gardenT tkb0iz@sunny.garden

                          @FediTips fedigroups won't even get back to me even after using their submission form 😕

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                          #35

                          @TKb0iZ

                          You might want to tag their account to ask about that?

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                          • tkb0iz@sunny.gardenT tkb0iz@sunny.garden

                            @FediTips fedigroups won't even get back to me even after using their submission form 😕

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                            #36

                            @TKb0iZ @FediTips

                            same with me. 😕

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                            • peter_link@expressional.socialP peter_link@expressional.social

                              @TKb0iZ @FediTips

                              same with me. 😕

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                              #37

                              @Peter_Link @TKb0iZ

                              They are really, really busy as they're suddenly getting way more people contacting them than before:

                              https://fedigroups.social/@hello/115176629107600467

                              It's an unpaid volunteer running it and manually checking each application, I think we just need to give them some time to catch up 🙂

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.

                                The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog 😞

                                However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:

                                ➡️ https://about.fedigroups.social/home

                                FediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.

                                (More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )

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                                #38

                                @FediTips @Curator

                                I made a FediGroup for artists! Enjoy and feel free to boost!

                                @drawingfedigroups.social

                                It's a shame, but FediGroups don't allow NSFW artworks

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                                • mxpoesu@mastodon.artM mxpoesu@mastodon.art

                                  @FediTips @Curator

                                  I made a FediGroup for artists! Enjoy and feel free to boost!

                                  @drawingfedigroups.social

                                  It's a shame, but FediGroups don't allow NSFW artworks

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                                  #39

                                  @MxPoesu

                                  I've been telling people about these new FediGroups (including your one) over on @FediFollows 🙂

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