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  • janggolan@mastodon.socialJ janggolan@mastodon.social

    @FediTips @wintervoid01
    "you don’t care about transferring anything else, you can skip steps 5 and 6"… the people you follow are in a csv file… when I transferred from .cloud to .social my followers came over but I skipped steps 5 and 6 so I had to follow my followers manually and then pick up other follows gradually as I remembered them…

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    #31

    @janggolan

    Steps 5 and 6 let you transfer the other stuff (including people you follow).

    You should only skip those steps if you *just* want to transfer your followers (people who follow you).

    They're done by two different methods to prevent spammers cloning followers and spamming them.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      @janggolan

      Steps 5 and 6 let you transfer the other stuff (including people you follow).

      You should only skip those steps if you *just* want to transfer your followers (people who follow you).

      They're done by two different methods to prevent spammers cloning followers and spamming them.

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      #32

      @FediTips
      you might include that
      and also the reasoning above

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      • janggolan@mastodon.socialJ janggolan@mastodon.social

        @FediTips
        you might include that
        and also the reasoning above

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        #33

        @janggolan

        Thanks for the feedback 🙏

        I've added another sentence to it and tweaked it, is this better?

        "If you just want to move your followers (people who follow you) and don't want to transfer anything else, skip steps 5 and 6."

        "If you also want to move your follows (people you follow) you need to include steps 5 and 6."

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          p.p.s. For people wondering why mas.to is better option than mastodon.social, here are some figures:

          mastodon.social currently has ~20% of active Fediverse accounts

          mas.to currently has ~1% of active Fediverse accounts

          Mastodon.social is just so much larger than other servers and keeps growing, it is putting the network itself in danger.

          I totally get the idea of having a single suggested server, but we need to regularly rotate which single server is suggested so we spread growth out.

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          #34

          I have subscribed to several interesting hashtags but since I get very little traffick in mas.to I suspect it is the server. Not the hashtag.

          Can I somehow follow the hashtags from another server than my own? @FediTips

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            If you're helping people sign up on here, that's great! 👏

            However, I'd strongly suggest not signing up on the mastodon.social server. It's way way too large and that's dangerous (here's why https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

            I know some find choice overwhelming, so if you just want one general long-established very busy server https://mas.to is a better option for example.

            There are also lots of other good servers listed at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

            angnor@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #35

            @FediTips Can we copy this post over to other social media? Say bluesky for example...

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              p.s. If you're already on mastodon.social, you can move to a different server.

              If you only just signed up and have no or very few followers, easiest option is probably to sign up on another server and forget about your mastodon.social account.

              if you've already got a significant number of followers and you want to keep them, you can move your account to another server using the transfer process. There's a non-technical step-by-step guide to moving your account here: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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              #36

              @FediTips
              Nice guide 👍
              I totaly agree with you.

              There's something else bothering me about Mastdon (mainly about dev) Long story short: i tried to make my own server last year, but just can't. Basicaly I wanted to use Mastodon as the activitypub engine, add front-end on top of it. But I had so many issues. The community didn't help, at all.
              I'm starting to think it's on purpose.
              Now i'm coding a full activitypub server, with xmpp userbase.
              I hope more dev will know about AP, XMPP & fedi stuff

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              • angnor@kind.socialA angnor@kind.social

                @FediTips Can we copy this post over to other social media? Say bluesky for example...

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                #37

                @Angnor

                Feel free to copy-paste this and spread wherever 🙂

                Also the text on my website is available under Creative Commons Attribution Sharealike so it can be shared as well.

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                • elsass_bear@mastodon.socialE elsass_bear@mastodon.social

                  @FediTips
                  Nice guide 👍
                  I totaly agree with you.

                  There's something else bothering me about Mastdon (mainly about dev) Long story short: i tried to make my own server last year, but just can't. Basicaly I wanted to use Mastodon as the activitypub engine, add front-end on top of it. But I had so many issues. The community didn't help, at all.
                  I'm starting to think it's on purpose.
                  Now i'm coding a full activitypub server, with xmpp userbase.
                  I hope more dev will know about AP, XMPP & fedi stuff

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                  #38

                  @elsass_bear

                  There are also many other Fediverse platforms apart from Mastodon, for example GoToSocial is looking pretty good 🙂

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @elsass_bear

                    There are also many other Fediverse platforms apart from Mastodon, for example GoToSocial is looking pretty good 🙂

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                    #39

                    @FediTips

                    Hmmm
                    It was tempting at first but i'm not fluent in go 😅
                    Also npm or JS stuff server side is a no go for me. So there's that.

                    Anyway, enough of my life 🤪
                    My point is : mastodon is not what it says it is. It's not for the masses, It's a bit community driven, but not realy, mostly monolitic, not so well documented, heavy and tricky to install.
                    And i think this is by design.

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                    • elsass_bear@mastodon.socialE elsass_bear@mastodon.social

                      @FediTips

                      Hmmm
                      It was tempting at first but i'm not fluent in go 😅
                      Also npm or JS stuff server side is a no go for me. So there's that.

                      Anyway, enough of my life 🤪
                      My point is : mastodon is not what it says it is. It's not for the masses, It's a bit community driven, but not realy, mostly monolitic, not so well documented, heavy and tricky to install.
                      And i think this is by design.

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                      #40

                      @elsass_bear

                      I think that's the idea of GTS and some other alternatives, to make a Fediverse platform that's easier to install and lightweight.

                      They can use the Mastodon API so their platforms work with software written for Mastodon, but the instance is much lighter.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        If you're helping people sign up on here, that's great! 👏

                        However, I'd strongly suggest not signing up on the mastodon.social server. It's way way too large and that's dangerous (here's why https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

                        I know some find choice overwhelming, so if you just want one general long-established very busy server https://mas.to is a better option for example.

                        There are also lots of other good servers listed at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

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                        #41

                        @FediTips You can invite people to join & then they join whichever instance you're on

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                        • T th3haccoon@infosec.exchange

                          @FediTips how do I know if I'm doing it right?

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                          #42

                          @th3haccoon @FediTips it's the bit after your username. So mine is lgbtqia.space, from @ mx verda @ lgbtqia.space whereas yours is infosec.exchange, from @ th3haccoon @ infosec.exchange, like FediTips said.

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                          • mxverda@lgbtqia.spaceM mxverda@lgbtqia.space

                            @th3haccoon @FediTips it's the bit after your username. So mine is lgbtqia.space, from @ mx verda @ lgbtqia.space whereas yours is infosec.exchange, from @ th3haccoon @ infosec.exchange, like FediTips said.

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                            #43

                            @MxVerda @FediTips ah! Very helpful. Thank you so much!

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                            • T th3haccoon@infosec.exchange

                              @MxVerda @FediTips ah! Very helpful. Thank you so much!

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                              #44

                              @th3haccoon @MxVerda

                              Yeah, you can find out more about your Fediverse address here: https://fedi.tips/whats-my-accounts-address-how-do-i-follow-other-peoples-addresses-how-can-people-follow-my-address

                              If you want to, you can log into your account on your server's website instead of an app. The website is usually the same as the name of the server, so for you it would be https://infosec.exchange 🙂 This is particularly useful on a computer.

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                              • staringatclouds@mstdn.socialS staringatclouds@mstdn.social

                                @FediTips You can invite people to join & then they join whichever instance you're on

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                                #45

                                @staringatclouds

                                Yup, more about that at https://fedi.tips/inviting-people-onto-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  p.p.s. For people wondering why mas.to is better option than mastodon.social, here are some figures:

                                  mastodon.social currently has ~20% of active Fediverse accounts

                                  mas.to currently has ~1% of active Fediverse accounts

                                  Mastodon.social is just so much larger than other servers and keeps growing, it is putting the network itself in danger.

                                  I totally get the idea of having a single suggested server, but we need to regularly rotate which single server is suggested so we spread growth out.

                                  worldtravelerall7@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #46

                                  @FediTips

                                  it's educational reading the comments & opinions.💙

                                  how do i see stats on mastodon.world?

                                  was i just randomly assigned to it?

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                                  • worldtravelerall7@mastodon.worldW worldtravelerall7@mastodon.world

                                    @FediTips

                                    it's educational reading the comments & opinions.💙

                                    how do i see stats on mastodon.world?

                                    was i just randomly assigned to it?

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                                    #47

                                    @WorldTravelerAll7

                                    Mastodon.world is currently just under 1% of the total active Fediverse, based on what's at https://fedidb.com

                                    You wouldn't have been randomly assigned, but there are many ways you might have joined. At some point you (or someone helping you?) would probably have chosen mastodon.world from a list of some kind? Or maybe you got an invitiation?

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                                    • luupilotti@mas.toL luupilotti@mas.to

                                      I have subscribed to several interesting hashtags but since I get very little traffick in mas.to I suspect it is the server. Not the hashtag.

                                      Can I somehow follow the hashtags from another server than my own? @FediTips

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                                      #48

                                      @luupilotti Hi! I guess that's what groups are for. @FediTips has also a website covering them here https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
                                      Hope this helps. I also migrated to a smaller server using the guide lately and it was very easy.

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                                      • frankie_flowers@franken.socialF frankie_flowers@franken.social

                                        @luupilotti Hi! I guess that's what groups are for. @FediTips has also a website covering them here https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
                                        Hope this helps. I also migrated to a smaller server using the guide lately and it was very easy.

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                                        #49

                                        @frankie_flowers @luupilotti

                                        The traffic mainly depends on what the tags are, mas.to has good connections to the Fediverse and should be getting as much as you could typically get.

                                        But as Frankie says, groups are a way of getting exactly the same traffic on all servers. You can find more info in the link they gave (https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/).

                                        I would advise following as many tags and groups as you can until you are seeing the amount of content you want.

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                                        • frankie_flowers@franken.socialF frankie_flowers@franken.social

                                          @luupilotti Hi! I guess that's what groups are for. @FediTips has also a website covering them here https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
                                          Hope this helps. I also migrated to a smaller server using the guide lately and it was very easy.

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                                          #50

                                          Good initiative but to get larger population to the fedi instead of just us nerds, this implementation has several usability flaws.

                                          Firstly, users would need to understand how the system technically works to be able to find posts and get visibility. This is a far fetch.

                                          🧵

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