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  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

    Here's my first Mastodon post!
    My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
    How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

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    #256

    @hpod16 Welcome!

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    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

      Here's my first Mastodon post!
      My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
      How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

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      #257

      @hpod16 Hi, great to see you here

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      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

        Here's my first Mastodon post!
        My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
        How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

        mherweg@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #258

        @hpod16 The monthly digital independence day is currently a DACH thing. But it can become european!

        https://termine.di.day/
        https://di.day/

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        • mherweg@chaos.socialM mherweg@chaos.social

          @hpod16 The monthly digital independence day is currently a DACH thing. But it can become european!

          https://termine.di.day/
          https://di.day/

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          #259

          @mherweg Ohhh, that's what DI day is! I've seen that around!

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          • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

            @alex_p_roe @FediTips
            DeepL is probably my favourite machine translation service, also, it's European!

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            #260

            @hpod16

            I think it depends on your instance. In mine we are offered to use LibreTranslate.

            I didn't know DeepL, but it's a good looking option. Nevertheless, it's not free software, so you can find some day they deleted the free plan, or started forcing customers to give them any personal data they want.

            On the other hand, you can self-host your own LibreTranslate instance (it doesn't need as much resources as you could think for personal usage).

            @alex_p_roe @FediTips

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            • teclado@masto.esT teclado@masto.es

              @hpod16

              I think it depends on your instance. In mine we are offered to use LibreTranslate.

              I didn't know DeepL, but it's a good looking option. Nevertheless, it's not free software, so you can find some day they deleted the free plan, or started forcing customers to give them any personal data they want.

              On the other hand, you can self-host your own LibreTranslate instance (it doesn't need as much resources as you could think for personal usage).

              @alex_p_roe @FediTips

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              #261

              @teclado @alex_p_roe @FediTips You're right, DeepL isn't free.
              Actually the EU does provide free machine translation services, but you need an account and it's just for:
              🟣 public administrations
              🟣small businesses
              🟣academia
              🟣non-governmental organisations
              🟣Digital Europe programme projects
              🟣candidates for EU posts
              https://translation.ec.europa.eu/tools-and-resources/ai-translation-and-language-tools_en

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              • teclado@masto.esT teclado@masto.es

                @hpod16

                I think it depends on your instance. In mine we are offered to use LibreTranslate.

                I didn't know DeepL, but it's a good looking option. Nevertheless, it's not free software, so you can find some day they deleted the free plan, or started forcing customers to give them any personal data they want.

                On the other hand, you can self-host your own LibreTranslate instance (it doesn't need as much resources as you could think for personal usage).

                @alex_p_roe @FediTips

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                #262

                @teclado @hpod16 @alex_p_roe

                It does depend on your instance, your admin will choose a translation system if they have one, usually LibreTranslate or DeepL.

                Some instances may not have translation at all because the admin doesn't have the resources to pay for it. If you ask your admin to add translation, it might be a good idea to also offer a donation at the same time.

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                • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

                  @hpod16 @FediTips The trick with AI, and all translation really, is to have a native speaker approve the translation before making it public. AI saves time and the LLMs (not technically AI) can do context sensitive translations, reduce or increase formality levels, or even make texts more persuasive. Very clever stuff 🙂 PS I used to some translation work but it has dried up!

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                  #263

                  @alex_p_roe @hpod16

                  Just to be clear, the translation services on here are not "AI" in the sense of ChatGPT etc. They aren't large language models.

                  LibreTranslate and DeepL use a different technology and were founded years before ChatGPT etc.

                  The term "AI" has been used a bit too freely by the media to the point where people assume it means awful unreliable stuff like ChatGPT and other LLMs.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @alex_p_roe @hpod16

                    Just to be clear, the translation services on here are not "AI" in the sense of ChatGPT etc. They aren't large language models.

                    LibreTranslate and DeepL use a different technology and were founded years before ChatGPT etc.

                    The term "AI" has been used a bit too freely by the media to the point where people assume it means awful unreliable stuff like ChatGPT and other LLMs.

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                    #264

                    @FediTips @alex_p_roe I think "AI" gets a bad name too easily these days, because everyone treats it as synonymous with LLMs like Chat GPT. You can be skeptical of LLMs and generative AI, but still appreciate many technologies that rely on machine learning that have done great things for humanity, like discover new medicines, or make translation better.
                    But that's a topic for a whole new thread...

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                    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                      @FediTips @alex_p_roe I think "AI" gets a bad name too easily these days, because everyone treats it as synonymous with LLMs like Chat GPT. You can be skeptical of LLMs and generative AI, but still appreciate many technologies that rely on machine learning that have done great things for humanity, like discover new medicines, or make translation better.
                      But that's a topic for a whole new thread...

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                      #265

                      @hpod16 @alex_p_roe

                      Yup. The term is just... it's used so broadly now that it is unclear what it means any more.

                      It's difficult to even use the term "AI" any more because people assume it means LLMs and generative junk.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        @alex_p_roe @hpod16

                        Just to be clear, the translation services on here are not "AI" in the sense of ChatGPT etc. They aren't large language models.

                        LibreTranslate and DeepL use a different technology and were founded years before ChatGPT etc.

                        The term "AI" has been used a bit too freely by the media to the point where people assume it means awful unreliable stuff like ChatGPT and other LLMs.

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                        #266

                        @FediTips DeepL describes itself to use a "advanced LLM", though.

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                        • brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB brennpunktua@mastodon.social

                          @FediTips DeepL describes itself to use a "advanced LLM", though.

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                          #267

                          @BrennpunktUA

                          Ah okay, I wasn't aware of that. I hope it's not going down the path of ChatGPT type stuff 😬

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