The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
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@jeffmcneill @Codeberg idk, I’ve been a part of several failed rebrandings using professional marketing firms. Why not take a community pulse? I’m genuinely curious
@soulcutter @Codeberg Way more failed brandings using "community pulse". It is like asking random people to do a "logo". Same nonsense approach with a nearly linear nonsense result. Also, "rebrandings" are usually failures. The key is to focus back on the core brand, with minimal change.
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@jeffmcneill @Codeberg idk, I’ve been a part of several failed rebrandings using professional marketing firms. Why not take a community pulse? I’m genuinely curious
@soulcutter @Codeberg I do agree that a professional marketing firm isn't a foolproof approach, so one needs a really good process for dealing with them. However, using amateurs isn't going to end well.
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@soulcutter @Codeberg Way more failed brandings using "community pulse". It is like asking random people to do a "logo". Same nonsense approach with a nearly linear nonsense result. Also, "rebrandings" are usually failures. The key is to focus back on the core brand, with minimal change.
@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg I disagree. A logo is something that you cannot easily change or adjust (something that you "pick") - the implicit question here is "how would you describe Codeberg in a sentence", not "we'll pick one sentence out of all of them" (hence "call for inspiration").
We work on free and open-source, so we love DIY'ing. (And also, if one were to take the logo comparison at face value, it has worked well for other communities like Comaps: https://codeberg.org/comaps/Governance/issues/73)
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The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
However, projects hosted on Codeberg are not necessarily by developers of software—on the other hand, deciding on a new slogan can be difficult and contentious, as first impressions really matter (and there's not a lot of space there).
So, one of the people controlling the social media account decided to ask the fediverse: Any good ideas?
@Codeberg "The site that doesn't sink your ship"
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@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg I disagree. A logo is something that you cannot easily change or adjust (something that you "pick") - the implicit question here is "how would you describe Codeberg in a sentence", not "we'll pick one sentence out of all of them" (hence "call for inspiration").
We work on free and open-source, so we love DIY'ing. (And also, if one were to take the logo comparison at face value, it has worked well for other communities like Comaps: https://codeberg.org/comaps/Governance/issues/73)
@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg Overall, I don't think I saw or that I'm seeing much harm in exploring something that I just had genuine curiosity over and asking other people.
(But I'm not a professional.)
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The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
However, projects hosted on Codeberg are not necessarily by developers of software—on the other hand, deciding on a new slogan can be difficult and contentious, as first impressions really matter (and there's not a lot of space there).
So, one of the people controlling the social media account decided to ask the fediverse: Any good ideas?
@Codeberg Maybe just replace "Software" with a different generic word, like "Project".
"Project development, but free."
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The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
However, projects hosted on Codeberg are not necessarily by developers of software—on the other hand, deciding on a new slogan can be difficult and contentious, as first impressions really matter (and there's not a lot of space there).
So, one of the people controlling the social media account decided to ask the fediverse: Any good ideas?
@Codeberg something in the line of
your creativity, your work, your freedom, your home
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@Codeberg,
- "The sanctuary for free development"
- "Your bastillion for free coding"
- "We'll sink unsinkable for your code"
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Tip: A bunch of ideas we have gotten so far involve the themes "mountain"/"summit", "unlike the 'rest of the Internet'", "retreat", "iceberg", "cool"... there miiiight be something behind those, but we also welcome out-of-the-box suggestions.
@Codeberg "Host code, not your data"
"Freedom, from base to summit"
"Freedom, from the ground up"
“Open source, all the way down"
"Freedon below the surface" (if will use iceberg as a theme)
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Tip: A bunch of ideas we have gotten so far involve the themes "mountain"/"summit", "unlike the 'rest of the Internet'", "retreat", "iceberg", "cool"... there miiiight be something behind those, but we also welcome out-of-the-box suggestions.
@Codeberg Freedom’s Forge ?
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The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
However, projects hosted on Codeberg are not necessarily by developers of software—on the other hand, deciding on a new slogan can be difficult and contentious, as first impressions really matter (and there's not a lot of space there).
So, one of the people controlling the social media account decided to ask the fediverse: Any good ideas?
@Codeberg
I thought of suggesting something like "Not evil" but Google really ruined that idea. -
The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
However, projects hosted on Codeberg are not necessarily by developers of software—on the other hand, deciding on a new slogan can be difficult and contentious, as first impressions really matter (and there's not a lot of space there).
So, one of the people controlling the social media account decided to ask the fediverse: Any good ideas?
@Codeberg
Opening the door to open source -
@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg I disagree. A logo is something that you cannot easily change or adjust (something that you "pick") - the implicit question here is "how would you describe Codeberg in a sentence", not "we'll pick one sentence out of all of them" (hence "call for inspiration").
We work on free and open-source, so we love DIY'ing. (And also, if one were to take the logo comparison at face value, it has worked well for other communities like Comaps: https://codeberg.org/comaps/Governance/issues/73)
@n0toose @soulcutter @Codeberg I think the idea that open source = amateur is just wrong. Yes, people do it because they love it, but those who do it well are at a high level of professionalism. DIY is fine if you have the skills. Also, is Codeberg a DIY project? Not quite.
I think this kind of core brand outreach is mistaken. Focus the minds on things that they can contribute to meaningfully, bug reports, feature requests, pull requests, etc.
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@n0toose @soulcutter @Codeberg I think the idea that open source = amateur is just wrong. Yes, people do it because they love it, but those who do it well are at a high level of professionalism. DIY is fine if you have the skills. Also, is Codeberg a DIY project? Not quite.
I think this kind of core brand outreach is mistaken. Focus the minds on things that they can contribute to meaningfully, bug reports, feature requests, pull requests, etc.
@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg I'd describe Codeberg as a "DIY project", in the sense that we do many things by ourselves and learn along the way.
Perhaps that could've been communicated better (other than the follow-up reply), but there are other team members focused on Public Relations and we'd consult others as well. As in, what you're describing is something that we'd do (instead of purely letting "others define us" with no control).
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@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg I'd describe Codeberg as a "DIY project", in the sense that we do many things by ourselves and learn along the way.
Perhaps that could've been communicated better (other than the follow-up reply), but there are other team members focused on Public Relations and we'd consult others as well. As in, what you're describing is something that we'd do (instead of purely letting "others define us" with no control).
@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg But I think I understand better that the fact that I did not clarify "we'd check in with all relevant stakeholders and brainstorm it anyway - but perhaps use a few starting points" (and the subsequent lack of transparency in that regard) in the posts above was part of what led to your response though.
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The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
However, projects hosted on Codeberg are not necessarily by developers of software—on the other hand, deciding on a new slogan can be difficult and contentious, as first impressions really matter (and there's not a lot of space there).
So, one of the people controlling the social media account decided to ask the fediverse: Any good ideas?
@Codeberg Free as in freedom. -
@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg But I think I understand better that the fact that I did not clarify "we'd check in with all relevant stakeholders and brainstorm it anyway - but perhaps use a few starting points" (and the subsequent lack of transparency in that regard) in the posts above was part of what led to your response though.
@n0toose @soulcutter @Codeberg I still don't see any advantage. Folks feel consulted but if their idea is not represented, then that can't be a happy occasion. Maybe some focus groups but the spray and pray method of marketing kind of violates everything about marketing as a discipline. I get that you might not have a background in this area. I'd suggest starting with Peter Drucker for a good foundation.
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The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
However, projects hosted on Codeberg are not necessarily by developers of software—on the other hand, deciding on a new slogan can be difficult and contentious, as first impressions really matter (and there's not a lot of space there).
So, one of the people controlling the social media account decided to ask the fediverse: Any good ideas?
@Codeberg I am thinking about some water related theme:
Where code arises -
The first thing that people see when visiting https://codeberg.org is the following: "Software development, but free!"
However, projects hosted on Codeberg are not necessarily by developers of software—on the other hand, deciding on a new slogan can be difficult and contentious, as first impressions really matter (and there's not a lot of space there).
So, one of the people controlling the social media account decided to ask the fediverse: Any good ideas?
@Codeberg A codeforge for the commons by the commons.
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@n0toose @soulcutter @Codeberg I still don't see any advantage. Folks feel consulted but if their idea is not represented, then that can't be a happy occasion. Maybe some focus groups but the spray and pray method of marketing kind of violates everything about marketing as a discipline. I get that you might not have a background in this area. I'd suggest starting with Peter Drucker for a good foundation.
@jeffmcneill @soulcutter @Codeberg Eh, there's a good idea here and there, but it's true that there's (as expected) a lot of things that would not be "usable as-is", but they still have value in the sense that they're an expression of "how one sees/thinks of Codeberg" in one sentence.
Thank you for the advice; I'll take a look into the suggestion.
