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  • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

    My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

    I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

    But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

    https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

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    #13

    @notjustbikes nice! Same issue in #Copenhagen btw https://github.com/mszell/sciencememes?tab=readme-ov-file#2023-08-google-maps-car-brained-routing

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    • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

      My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

      I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

      But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

      https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

      mahadevank@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @notjustbikes same in Bangalore, India - terrible routes even for driving

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      • rbos@mastodon.novylen.netR rbos@mastodon.novylen.net

        @notjustbikes I've been making an effort to transition to OpenStreetMaps - do you find that it's any better for Amsterdam bike route planning? It probably depends a lot on the city, I surmise.

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        #15
        @notjustbikes @rbos Important thing to note: OSM doesn't do any route planning itself, it just provides the map data to separate services. So give each a try and find which works best for your needs
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        • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

          My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

          I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

          But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

          https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

          mayaya@vt.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @notjustbikes google maps always send me in circles in Amsterdam it was quite horrible

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          • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

            My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

            I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

            But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

            https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

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            #17

            @notjustbikes I want to make a shoutout to GeoVelo (https://geovelo.app/) as an OpenStreetMap based bike router that I find in Boston (and I use it occasionally when I am elsewhere) gives better directions than Google.

            And when it gives me something weird, I can usually fix OSM because something is wrong there and next time it gives me better directions

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            • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

              My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

              I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

              But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

              https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

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              #18

              @notjustbikes Great video. As a Canadian in the Metro Vancouver area, I am always astonished at how many people you see riding bikes in Amsterdam.

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              • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

                My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

                I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

                But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

                https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

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                #19

                @notjustbikes https://brouter.m11n.de is pretty good for OSM based bike routing everywhere. Otherwise I do find even OSM's default layer is pretty car-biased. Also you didn't get into how terrible Google map's transit layer is.

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                • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

                  My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

                  I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

                  But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

                  https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

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                  #20

                  @notjustbikes

                  Excellent take, as usual! While this is tangential to the subject of the video, I'd also like to kvetch about the way Google Maps handles surface transit. It only shows bus stops when zoomed in so far as to make it unusable for a route overview. It tends to miss better routes when used for route planning, and it's not great at handling multiple modes or multiple agencies in a trip.

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                  • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

                    My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

                    I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

                    But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

                    https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

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                    #21

                    @notjustbikes I moved to Amsterdam a few months ago and I'm really enjoying both trying to recognise places I know in your videos and suddenly seeing places I know from your videos in the city!

                    I'm still trying to find the best route to work. My current route is already a lot better than google's suggestion.
                    I checked the Amsterdam infrastructure map and I'm already completely on the plusnet, but olympiaweg and centuurbaan don't really feel like they deserve to be in there 😕

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                    • freundtech@chaos.socialF freundtech@chaos.social

                      @notjustbikes I moved to Amsterdam a few months ago and I'm really enjoying both trying to recognise places I know in your videos and suddenly seeing places I know from your videos in the city!

                      I'm still trying to find the best route to work. My current route is already a lot better than google's suggestion.
                      I checked the Amsterdam infrastructure map and I'm already completely on the plusnet, but olympiaweg and centuurbaan don't really feel like they deserve to be in there 😕

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                      #22

                      @freundTech use the Fietsersbond route planner with "autoluwe".

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                      • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

                        @freundTech use the Fietsersbond route planner with "autoluwe".

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                        #23

                        @notjustbikes Thanks. The autoluwe route looks interesting. I'll try that tomorrow. With the default settings it only got rid of one of the sections I don't like in exchange for adding another not-great section (still better than google's route though).

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                        • notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.comN notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com

                          My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

                          I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

                          But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

                          https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-why-i-dont-use-google-maps-in-amsterdam

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                          #24

                          @notjustbikes Thanks for the video on important topic!

                          I rage quit Google Maps last summer when I was visiting Prague. I just wanted to cross the river from my hotel to the city center and couldn't see the green hairline on blue river 🤦‍♂️ The bridge just happens to be the oldest and most beautiful bridges in the city, and basically invisible on Maps as it is pedestrianized. What use is a map that cannot be used for navigation? Now I'm a happy #OSM user and occasional contributor.

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