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2001: I have a new phone.

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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

    2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

    2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

    2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

    ...

    2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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    #72

    @neil that's why there is a market for brands like #Fairphone. Although I'm afraid that most people need an excuse to get a new shiny black slab every two years.

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    • smsm1@mastodon.greenS smsm1@mastodon.green

      @NaN @neil me too, though they also run out of security updates after about 7 years, so having to go through the upgrade path.

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      #73

      @smsm1 @neil they're offering longer for the newer models too, which feels like going in the right direction

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      • nan@mastodon.greenN nan@mastodon.green

        @smsm1 @neil they're offering longer for the newer models too, which feels like going in the right direction

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        #74

        @NaN @neil yeah it's part of the reason for staying with Fairphone. I'm too hesitant to move to a non stock OS for app compatibility reasons. I'm keen in the reparability aspect and have used it a few times now to replace some components that have worn out or the screen got scratched enough.

        Interestingly newer screens seem lies likely to crack.

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

          2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

          2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

          ...

          2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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          #75

          @neil I'm usin' a Sony Xperia 5III (Android 13). It's more than adequate, so I'm not plannin' to replace it, any time soon.

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          • madness832@mstdn.partyM madness832@mstdn.party

            @neil I'm usin' a Sony Xperia 5III (Android 13). It's more than adequate, so I'm not plannin' to replace it, any time soon.

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            #76

            @madness832 Were it not for security updates, I would not be changing mine.

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            • avian@mstdn.businessA avian@mstdn.business

              @neil yes, although that was also true of the old black slab....

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              #77

              @avian @neil
              I own a #fairphone and replace parts from time to time.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                ...

                2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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                #78
                @neil

                I did those things too! I loved PalmOS. - at the time. Not sure I would find it quite so satisfying now. It was so easy to develop for too.
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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  FWIW, I run @GrapheneOS on a Pixel.

                  This will be my third GrapheneOS device.

                  A genuinely excellent Android experience, with many years of support and security updates.

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                  #79

                  @neil @GrapheneOS I wish I could say I'd had that experience. I had two Pixels, and with both the battery lasted a year. Both had Graphene which I enjoyed. The next phone, a Fairphone 5 with Murena was also excellent, except the only part that isn't user serviceable (the main board) developed a fault. I bought it to try to escape the problems with battery life. Now I am miserably using an iPhone and swearing at it every other day!

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                  • david@social.piconet.workD david@social.piconet.work

                    @neil @GrapheneOS I wish I could say I'd had that experience. I had two Pixels, and with both the battery lasted a year. Both had Graphene which I enjoyed. The next phone, a Fairphone 5 with Murena was also excellent, except the only part that isn't user serviceable (the main board) developed a fault. I bought it to try to escape the problems with battery life. Now I am miserably using an iPhone and swearing at it every other day!

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                    #80

                    @david

                    > the battery lasted a year

                    That's a shame 😞

                    Did Google not replace it?

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      @david

                      > the battery lasted a year

                      That's a shame 😞

                      Did Google not replace it?

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                      #81

                      @neil As an autistic person I needed a quick replacement so I went out and bought another asap. I then recycled the phones with envirophone. Hopefully someone else had a better time with the phone when it was resold. I have a Nokia candybar around just in case my phone dies now. But sending a phone away for over a month (which was what I was quoted) just isn't a viable option for repairing such a vital device.

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                      • david@social.piconet.workD david@social.piconet.work

                        @neil As an autistic person I needed a quick replacement so I went out and bought another asap. I then recycled the phones with envirophone. Hopefully someone else had a better time with the phone when it was resold. I have a Nokia candybar around just in case my phone dies now. But sending a phone away for over a month (which was what I was quoted) just isn't a viable option for repairing such a vital device.

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                        #82

                        @david

                        > sending a phone away for over a month (which was what I was quoted) just isn't a viable option for repairing such a vital device.

                        Oh, wow, yes! I'd be in exactly the same position.

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                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                          2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                          2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                          2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                          ...

                          2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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                          #83

                          @neil Remembering that video of the guy in the Apple Store queue who didn't know which model he had in his pocket... 🙄

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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                            This is, of course, a daft mentality.

                            The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

                            It can also make and receive calls.

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                            #84

                            @neil "It can also make and receive calls." Well, nothing's perfect...

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                            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                              This is, of course, a daft mentality.

                              The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

                              It can also make and receive calls.

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                              #85

                              @neil Ahhh did you grab one in the sales then?

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                              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                @HarryMutt 💚

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                                #86

                                @neil @HarryMutt@vivaldi.net troll or bot here I think Neil? 18mth on the platform and only 7 follows? blocked 👍

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                                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                  FWIW, I run @GrapheneOS on a Pixel.

                                  This will be my third GrapheneOS device.

                                  A genuinely excellent Android experience, with many years of support and security updates.

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                                  #87

                                  @neil @GrapheneOS My GOS powered Pixel Pro 6 is also coming to the end of its software life, despite still being a good solid reliable phone with plenty of battery life.
                                  Next black slab will probably be a GOS powered Pixel Pro 9. Not new, new, but new to me.

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                                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                    2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                                    2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                                    2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                                    ...

                                    2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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                                    #88

                                    @neil I am thinking about dumping the 'smartphone' tech platform entirely. A simple base phone and a tablet with an OS of my choosing would suit better.

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                                    • feff@comicscamp.clubF feff@comicscamp.club

                                      @neil Ahhh did you grab one in the sales then?

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                                      #89

                                      @feff I did 🙂

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                                      • david@social.piconet.workD david@social.piconet.work

                                        @neil @GrapheneOS I wish I could say I'd had that experience. I had two Pixels, and with both the battery lasted a year. Both had Graphene which I enjoyed. The next phone, a Fairphone 5 with Murena was also excellent, except the only part that isn't user serviceable (the main board) developed a fault. I bought it to try to escape the problems with battery life. Now I am miserably using an iPhone and swearing at it every other day!

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                                        #90

                                        @david @neil @GrapheneOS
                                        I have a Fairphone with Android. I want to switch to Murena (in fact, would have liked to buy with it from the start), but I can't afford to break my existing setup to try it out.

                                        I also have apps that I've paid for through the Play store and don't really want to give up or find alternatives. It's a bit of a bind. At some point I'll hopefully be able to afford a second hand device to try it out.

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                                        • charlesshould@mastodon.onlineC charlesshould@mastodon.online

                                          @avian @neil
                                          I own a #fairphone and replace parts from time to time.

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                                          #91

                                          @CharlesShould @avian @neil I chose Fairphone after my old phone decay mostly because of replaceable parts. I want to keep this phone as long as possible, only changing batteries when necessary.

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