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  • screwlisp@gamerplus.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #147

    @davidrevoy

    @algernon did you have direct commentary on the effectiveness of e.g. iocaine ?

    @lunareclipse @catsalad @realFedix

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      The Aesthetic Rebellion

      Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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      @davidrevoy

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      • screwlisp@gamerplus.orgS screwlisp@gamerplus.org

        @davidrevoy

        @algernon did you have direct commentary on the effectiveness of e.g. iocaine ?

        @lunareclipse @catsalad @realFedix

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        #149

        @screwlisp @davidrevoy @algernon @catsalad @realFedix iocaine is a completely different approach, feeding AI scrapers different data than people, the effectiveness is limited by your capability to detect bots and by the ability of the user of the data to detect the data is a tarpit

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          #150

          @lunareclipse
          I suppose they are more different than I thought off hand. I recall nightshade's demonstration was modifying a picture of a cow with subtle visual cues that would have a bot scraper erroneously machine-label it as a leather wallet. In contrast I suppose @algernon 's iocaine is a tool for ensnaring and triangulating bot scrapers (or poisoning them, if you will).

          Bemusing avian intelligence is a broad topic.

          @davidrevoy @catsalad @realFedix

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          • prahou@merveilles.townP prahou@merveilles.town

            @davidrevoy

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            #151

            @prahou 🤣 🤣

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            • odysseywestra@linuxrocks.onlineO odysseywestra@linuxrocks.online

              @davidrevoy hey, it's a good illustration on Goodhart's Law. Remember that being a thing during COVID. Especially when it came to employers tracking productivity using mouse movements. Then those same employees figured out how to fool that software by installing mouse signaling software or vibrators to their mice.

              But then again, how long is it going to take until new LLMs begin to copy those kind of techniques we apply to our artwork? It could be a never-ending cat and mouse chase when it comes to genAI and us.

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              #152

              @odysseywestra Hey, oh, I think AI can already copy these techniques, no problem, they are good parrots.
              But what protect this type of style is what their userbase want when they prompt, and how the company design the invisible "master prompt" to provide only "high quality rendering, mastery, featured artworks" and all the label like that , that are pre-feeded to exclude low quality works.
              So, it require a lot of prompt engineering to get a rendering like that, and that's a path, imo 🙂

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                The Aesthetic Rebellion

                Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

                oscherler@tooting.chO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #153

                @davidrevoy J’adore le fait que toute la case prend le style.

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  The Aesthetic Rebellion

                  Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                  #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                  #154

                  @davidrevoy I'm in love with the third panel

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    The Aesthetic Rebellion

                    Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                    #155

                    @davidrevoy this is awesome, I love me sum chaotic stylization! Although it is saddening that realism has to conform to a stylization to avoid being mistaken for Ai

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      The Aesthetic Rebellion

                      Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                      #156

                      @davidrevoy roooh ! Magnifique mise en abime qui mey bien en valeur tes talents ! 🤩

                      La première case m'a paru hyper lisse ! Et j'ai vite compris pourquoi 😁

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                      • lascapi@social.tchncs.deL lascapi@social.tchncs.de

                        @davidrevoy roooh ! Magnifique mise en abime qui mey bien en valeur tes talents ! 🤩

                        La première case m'a paru hyper lisse ! Et j'ai vite compris pourquoi 😁

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                        @lascapi Merci! 😊

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          The Aesthetic Rebellion

                          Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                          @davidrevoy now this is resistance. Down with Avian Intelligence!

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