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  3. Mom telling me about a friend of a friend who got a million views on art he posted on deviant art.

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  • deshipu@fosstodon.orgD deshipu@fosstodon.org

    @eniko People are so out of touch that I'm afraid we will soon need to fork the planet.

    leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #26

    @deshipu we're forking it up already, that should work
    @eniko

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    • deshipu@fosstodon.orgD deshipu@fosstodon.org

      @eniko You know that this is as old as the first cave paintings, nay, the first finger drawings in the mud? Artists and artisans have been ranting about this at least as long as the oldest sources we have indicate. Possibly the second work of art ever created was expressing this sentiment about a poor copy of the first work of art.

      eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #27

      @deshipu not really, because a human being still had to make it

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        If you want to make AI text or images or code I guess you do you (although you're buying into a fascist pillaging of the commons and environmental destruction, so uhh, don't do you actually) but it doesn't make you an author, artist, or even programmer and it never fucking will

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        #28

        What even is the point of doing anything anymore dude. Just get your best bud Claude to do everything from now on. Who gives a fuck

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          If you want to make AI text or images or code I guess you do you (although you're buying into a fascist pillaging of the commons and environmental destruction, so uhh, don't do you actually) but it doesn't make you an author, artist, or even programmer and it never fucking will

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          #29

          @eniko "Wow! you're such a gatekeeper, you're not the only one with the right to do art you know? Why don't you get help with your narcissism?"

          Actual comment I got from a random guy who traces AI images.

          I feel you so much.

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            If you want to make AI text or images or code I guess you do you (although you're buying into a fascist pillaging of the commons and environmental destruction, so uhh, don't do you actually) but it doesn't make you an author, artist, or even programmer and it never fucking will

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            #30

            @eniko I was trying to reason .. in an abstract sense .. suppose you'd have a power, that allows you to turn into 'any form you want' an idea you express in words. Would you be 'an artist' at this point ? I think the main difference between that and AI is that 'you leave most of the job to transform the idea into reality to a machine', a machine that is hungry for power, space and resources to feed it that ultimately are the works of others done by years of practicing and thinking. But I CONT.

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              What even is the point of doing anything anymore dude. Just get your best bud Claude to do everything from now on. Who gives a fuck

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              #31

              @eniko I genuinely don't know how to get over this precise feeling.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                What even is the point of doing anything anymore dude. Just get your best bud Claude to do everything from now on. Who gives a fuck

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                #32

                Yeah it won't be good and it won't mean anything at all but it's *something* and it costs you nothing so why not slop out some more content for the dead internet, go wild, the social contract is fucking dead anyway

                Jesus fucking christ

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  Yeah it won't be good and it won't mean anything at all but it's *something* and it costs you nothing so why not slop out some more content for the dead internet, go wild, the social contract is fucking dead anyway

                  Jesus fucking christ

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                  #33

                  Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

                  tijn@dosgame.clubT aprazeth@mstdn.socialA sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS snoopj@hachyderm.ioS notthatdelta@furry.engineerN 5 Replies Last reply
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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    What even is the point of doing anything anymore dude. Just get your best bud Claude to do everything from now on. Who gives a fuck

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                    #34

                    @eniko honestly, this feels in the same vein as watching some people I know ask chatGPT for health advice, or asking it what direction to go to get back to their car when they have lost their place on a hiking trail, or asking it to find them a quiet restaurant (and it put them by a highway). Yes these all happened.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      Mom telling me about a friend of a friend who got a million views on art he posted on deviant art. Click the link, "created with AI tools" 😒

                      Why are you telling your daughter who has made actual award winning art about this person who made a computer make a picture that a million people without taste looked at?

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                      #35

                      @eniko https://social.treehouse.systems/@YKantRachelRead/117237545685395536

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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                        #36

                        @eniko It's definitely the one thing AI is very very good at: making it real clear who is a twat and who is not

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                        • gilesgoat@toot.walesG gilesgoat@toot.wales

                          @eniko I was trying to reason .. in an abstract sense .. suppose you'd have a power, that allows you to turn into 'any form you want' an idea you express in words. Would you be 'an artist' at this point ? I think the main difference between that and AI is that 'you leave most of the job to transform the idea into reality to a machine', a machine that is hungry for power, space and resources to feed it that ultimately are the works of others done by years of practicing and thinking. But I CONT.

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                          #37

                          @eniko CONT. the main thing is that it's not YOU doing the process of using knowledge and skills to transform an idea into reality, most of it is done by a machine that 'is not doing a mere machine task' it's replacing a personal/transformative process that a human should take and doing it 'with an algo' that 'doesn't really know what is doing' because AI has no consciousness. I think the problem in this case is you are "delegating too much of your task to a machine". And what if it malfunction

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                          • tijn@dosgame.clubT tijn@dosgame.club

                            @eniko It's definitely the one thing AI is very very good at: making it real clear who is a twat and who is not

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                            #38

                            @Tijn the twats outnumber us 10 to 1

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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                              #39

                              @eniko

                              I for one, will not submit to the digital boot stomping down - as much as it is attempted to Trojan horse it through the doors as "just a tool"

                              That said, it is hard seeing the people you looked up to fall into it. The people you love, relegate to it, not even spending the least amount of effort into you or the relation between you.

                              I have no solution, I have no joke or pun.

                              I am sorry. You are not alone in this, for all that may be worth.

                              🫂

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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                                #40

                                @eniko you seem to be having about as good a week as me about this stuff. Solidarity with your conclusion of: gaaaaah

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @deshipu not really, because a human being still had to make it

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                                  #41

                                  @eniko they probably just found a funny rock or something

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                                  • sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @eniko you seem to be having about as good a week as me about this stuff. Solidarity with your conclusion of: gaaaaah

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                                    #42

                                    @sinbad I'm not having an amazing week no lol

                                    Sorry to hear you can commiserate

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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                                      #43

                                      @eniko I think the great filter is something that will need a little more staying power in terms of "capable of continuing to exist as a thing"

                                      all this *gestures* being propped up on the financialized instrument equivalent of a pile of nitroglycerine does not make me think it's going to last as-is

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @Tijn the twats outnumber us 10 to 1

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                                        #44

                                        @eniko Those who are twats will bring their inevitable end, while those who aren't will continue to prosper - Sun Tzu, probably, or it might have been Kropotkin /hj

                                        @Tijn

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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                                          #45

                                          @eniko I'll never understand it.

                                          I had a coworker send me an LLM-generated email yesterday. I complained about the unreadability and unnecessary padding about it to another coworker, who suggested I *run it through an LLM for a summary*.

                                          I remember being thrilled that I get to do this kind of work. Now it's like trying to work under a cold wet blanket.

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