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❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse?

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  • papiris@hachyderm.ioP papiris@hachyderm.io

    @finnmyrstad @pluralistic hahaha what a glorious video!
    Could you make a video about the de-enshittificators? You know, the ones [unbricking polish trains](https://hackaday.com/2023/12/14/polish-train-manufacturer-threatens-hackers-who-unbricked-their-trains/), [bypassing digital locks and parts pairing in farm equipment](https://www.gadgetreview.com/the-tractor-repair-scam-john-deeres-digital-lockdown-and-the-farmers-who-hacked-it), and building freedom- and privacy-resistant alternatives which are resistant to enshittification (this here fediverse, for example, as well as the co-operatives running member-democratically owned and controlled digital services) [1](https://datakollektivet.no), [2](https://data.coop), [3](https://konstellationen.org), [4](https://ukrudt.net), [5](https://deuxfleurs.fr), [6](https://social.coop), [7](https://riseagainstbig.tech), [8](https://mayfirst.coop), [9](https://commonscloud.coop), [10](https://meet.coop), [11](https://coopcloud.tech) and many others

    rosenrot@chaos.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #27

    @papiris @finnmyrstad @pluralistic
    I'd like to add some german tech-coops:
    https://tech-coops.de/

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    • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

      ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

      ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

      Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

      More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

      More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

      Enjoy this short film!

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      #28

      @finnmyrstad @pluralistic it feels criminal to watch content this good for free

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      • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

        ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

        ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

        Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

        More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

        More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

        Enjoy this short film!

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        #29

        @finnmyrstad @pluralistic

        chatbot says no!!!!!

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        • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

          ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

          ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

          Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

          More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

          More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

          Enjoy this short film!

          johentsch@hostux.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #30

          @finnmyrstad
          Amazing film!
          @pluralistic

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          • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

            ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

            ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

            Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

            More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

            More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

            Enjoy this short film!

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            #31

            @finnmyrstad @pluralistic z

            It might be time to #resistandUnsubscribe

            https://dropout.baby/

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            • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

              ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

              ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

              Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

              More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

              More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

              Enjoy this short film!

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              #32

              @finnmyrstad @pluralistic beautiful 🤩

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              • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                Enjoy this short film!

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                #33

                @finnmyrstad @pluralistic Link to the English language version of the report is to be found on this page:

                https://www.forbrukerradet.no/news-in-english/digital-products-and-services-are-getting-worse-but-the-trend-can-be-reversed/

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                • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                  ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                  ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                  Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                  More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                  More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                  Enjoy this short film!

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                  #34

                  @finnmyrstad @pluralistic This is great. 😁 cc/ @CorioPsicologia

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                  • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                    ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                    ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                    Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                    More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                    More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                    Enjoy this short film!

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                    #35

                    @finnmyrstad Thank you, I love the film and the serious work behind it.

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                    • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                      ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                      ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                      Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                      More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                      More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                      Enjoy this short film!

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                      #36

                      @finnmyrstad @pluralistic

                      Has anyone else noticed how satire in Nordic countries is always a masterclass in Satire? I'm a fan of Norsemen, and this video fits right in. But I'm sad about enshittification 😞

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                      • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                        @finnmyrstad @pluralistic Link to the English language version of the report is to be found on this page:

                        https://www.forbrukerradet.no/news-in-english/digital-products-and-services-are-getting-worse-but-the-trend-can-be-reversed/

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                        #37

                        @finnmyrstad @pluralistic It was a good presentation from the Forbrukerrådet.

                        Norway is part of the European Economic Area and has access through this organisation to the EU Single Market. Most of the EU directives are implemented into Norwegian law (eventually).

                        The presentation, interview with Cory Doctorow and the panel discussion touched on what Norway can do as a small nation but also within the framework of the current data protection regulatory system that the EU provides.

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                        • torstentorsten@social.tchncs.deT torstentorsten@social.tchncs.de

                          The video itself is pretty shitty. How it "informs" about enshittification without even using the c-word (capitalism) makes me wonder: is this a conscious choice (if so: what's the rationale behind this choice?) or a lack of consciousness?

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                          #38

                          @torstentorsten Remember monarchy?

                          Removing the right of villagers to hunt in the nearby forest? Enshittification. Just slower.

                          Turning former yeomen (free farmers) into serfs on their formerly self-owned land? Enshittification.

                          You don’t need capitalism to enshittify. You just need power over others.
                          @finnmyrstad @pluralistic

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                          • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                            ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                            ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                            Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                            More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                            More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                            Enjoy this short film!

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                            #39

                            @finnmyrstad @pluralistic 👏👏👏

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                            • iquitsmoking@cyberplace.socialI iquitsmoking@cyberplace.social

                              @finnmyrstad @pluralistic it feels criminal to watch content this good for free

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                              #40

                              @iquitsmoking @finnmyrstad @pluralistic Oh no worries. They'll start to charge you a monthly fee for it when you're more dependent.

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                              • torstentorsten@social.tchncs.deT torstentorsten@social.tchncs.de

                                The video itself is pretty shitty. How it "informs" about enshittification without even using the c-word (capitalism) makes me wonder: is this a conscious choice (if so: what's the rationale behind this choice?) or a lack of consciousness?

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                                #41

                                @torstentorsten @finnmyrstad @pluralistic
                                The remit of the Forbrukerråd is to help Norwegian consumers with problems they experience when purchasing/leasing goods and services from companies.

                                Their remit does not extend to recommending one or another type of economic system.

                                With this video the Forbrukerråd has given (Norwegian) consumers a word to hang their frustrations on when they encounter yet another example of #enshittification in their digital lives.

                                Which is the point of this video.

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                                • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                                  ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                                  ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                                  Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                                  More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                                  More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                                  Enjoy this short film!

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                                  #42

                                  @finnmyrstad @pluralistic
                                  Looks like the link is not working.

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                                  • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                                    ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                                    ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                                    Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                                    More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                                    More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                                    Enjoy this short film!

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                                    #43

                                    @finnmyrstad @pluralistic love it!!!

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                                    • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                                      ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                                      ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                                      Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                                      More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                                      More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                                      Enjoy this short film!

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                                      #44

                                      @finnmyrstad incredibly accurate

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                                      • finnmyrstad@eupolicy.socialF finnmyrstad@eupolicy.social

                                        ❓Have you noticed that digital products and services are getting worse? So have we!

                                        ➡️We have published a report about enshittification, on how and why digital products and services keep getting worse - and how we can turn the trend (hint: open tech, enforcement, public policy++)

                                        Obviously @pluralistic is a big inspiration and help in this work.

                                        More than 80 groups in Europe and the US has joined in a call to action.

                                        More here: www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree

                                        Enjoy this short film!

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                                        #45

                                        @finnmyrstad Absolutely brilliant! 👏🏻👏🏻

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                                        • rosenrot@chaos.socialR rosenrot@chaos.social

                                          @papiris @finnmyrstad @pluralistic
                                          I'd like to add some german tech-coops:
                                          https://tech-coops.de/

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                                          #46

                                          @Rosenrot @finnmyrstad @pluralistic

                                          For sure!
                                          In my comment I was going for co-ops and similar organisations where the users have democratic co-determination, but tech workers' co-ops are certainly a vital and important part of the ecosystem.

                                          To contribute to your list, here are links to some of the tech workers' co-ops I've had the pleasure of meeting and/or conversing with:

                                          - @agaric, member of the international tech co-op federation @patio
                                          - @tak
                                          - @autonomic (also member of Patio)
                                          - @Cloud68
                                          - @interstitial_coop
                                          - https://robur.coop
                                          - https://doop.coop
                                          - https://ogtall.no
                                          - https://19.coop
                                          - https://platformcoop.de
                                          - https://digidemlab.org (and https://collective.tools)
                                          - https://syndicats.co

                                          and for an even wider list, there's https://tech-coops.xyz/

                                          and finally, me and two other folks are in the process of starting a tech workers' co-op in Norway 🙂

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