Dear Fedi friends,
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Dear Fedi friends,
Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.
The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.
I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.
My articles on them:
: https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/Wow. Just wow.
@_elena hey @europeanspodcast , I know you talked about W Social after Davos, maybe it's time to revisit it with some more depth? It all smells fishy
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@liaizon @_elena @Razemix It seems like it's a bit inconsistent. vonderleyen https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb#identity and ec.europa.eu https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy#identity uses W, while e.g. jessikaroswall https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:7jh367ofh36xyxb7mpu7xigi#identity uses bsky.
On Blacksky vonderleyen https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb and ec.europa.eu https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy apears like they are currently deactivated.
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For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
- I was given some information on background, confidentially
- I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.
Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠
@_elena thank you for your work on this, and everything else.
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@Razemix well, ATproto is not like the Fediverse, to be truly independent and sovereign you need to host your own PDS, relay, firehose and moderation (amongst other things). It takes money, resources and expertise. I'm surprised they didn't move to Eurosky TBH
@Razemix@mamutovo.cz @_elena@mastodon.social
You don't need a relay, with a cheap constellation instance and https://reddwarf.app you can use bluesky without touching blueskys infrastructure.
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@Razemix@mamutovo.cz @liaizon@social.wake.st @aslakr@mastodon.social @_elena@mastodon.social
It's probably a bug on blacksky's end
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For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
- I was given some information on background, confidentially
- I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.
Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠
File under: #WSocial shenanigans
I was alerted by @usti that the video of the Monaco AI conference presentation by W Social CEO Anna Zeiter was removed from their YouTube channel. You know, the video that I referenced in my second exposé about W Social, quoted extensively (because some of her statements were truly shocking).
This is the only video that was removed from their channel. I thought I had downloaded a copy to my computer... but hey, proof from the Wayback Machine of its existence
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Dear Fedi friends,
Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.
The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.
I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.
My articles on them:
: https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/Wow. Just wow.
@_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
Politicians should have social media account on open free software platforms hosted by the government, this is so dumb. -
For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
- I was given some information on background, confidentially
- I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.
Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠
@_elena
> Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠Well, isn't what's “WWW” about?
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@_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.
I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.
@bitbraindev And Mastodon would gain more reach if more politicians, journalists, etc would be here.
But meanwhile, with all bad developments coming with growing size, I'm quite happy about some cosy caves
which are better protected against toxic profit crap or AISlop. -
Dear Fedi friends,
Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.
The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.
I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.
My articles on them:
: https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/Wow. Just wow.
@_elena
> I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterpriseI can easily not only fathom but be pretty sure why. I just do not know the sum.
@NatureMC
> lobbyismWe need to stop to use euphemisms. Not "lobbyism" but bribery. Not "investor;'s interests" but corruption.
The only place to use lobbyism for me is in the phrase "Lobbying should be punished by a life sentence for any party participating".
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File under: #WSocial shenanigans
I was alerted by @usti that the video of the Monaco AI conference presentation by W Social CEO Anna Zeiter was removed from their YouTube channel. You know, the video that I referenced in my second exposé about W Social, quoted extensively (because some of her statements were truly shocking).
This is the only video that was removed from their channel. I thought I had downloaded a copy to my computer... but hey, proof from the Wayback Machine of its existence
Removing this video looks an admission of guilt.
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@_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.
I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.
@bitbraindev @_elena @EUCommission and anyone not interested in actively monitoring a site or social could just follow the account's rss feed.
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@_elena
> I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterpriseI can easily not only fathom but be pretty sure why. I just do not know the sum.
@NatureMC
> lobbyismWe need to stop to use euphemisms. Not "lobbyism" but bribery. Not "investor;'s interests" but corruption.
The only place to use lobbyism for me is in the phrase "Lobbying should be punished by a life sentence for any party participating".
@ohir You can use whatever words you want. But let me use the words I want, it's my profession. I differ between lobbyism and murder. And I try to stay objective and calm in language.
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Removing this video looks an admission of guilt.
@MichelPatrice 1000%
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@bitbraindev SPOT ON. They could easily bridge their Mastodon account to Bluesky using BridgyFed... a Mastodon account that is truly sovereign / their own
@_elena @EUCommission ah wonderful example how it is done correctly are the German official broadcast services such as @BR24 hosted on a dedicated ard.social instance.
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File under: #WSocial shenanigans
I was alerted by @usti that the video of the Monaco AI conference presentation by W Social CEO Anna Zeiter was removed from their YouTube channel. You know, the video that I referenced in my second exposé about W Social, quoted extensively (because some of her statements were truly shocking).
This is the only video that was removed from their channel. I thought I had downloaded a copy to my computer... but hey, proof from the Wayback Machine of its existence
️ More shocking news! 
Christine Lagarde and the European Central Bank have just migrated to #WSocial too!!!
(For context, see the beginning of this thread).
I'm at a loss for words today. Truly.
What a world.
If you missed my exposés on this controversial, problematic company, here they are:
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Dear Fedi friends,
Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.
The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.
I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.
My articles on them:
: https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/Wow. Just wow.
@_elena I'm sure I'm missing something, but why are they bothing with W Social when they have a Mastodon instance here? is there value that W Social adds that is impossible with Mastodon? @EUCommission
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️ More shocking news!
Christine Lagarde and the European Central Bank have just migrated to #WSocial too!!!
(For context, see the beginning of this thread).
I'm at a loss for words today. Truly.
What a world.
If you missed my exposés on this controversial, problematic company, here they are:
- I don't get why #wsocial and not #eurosky
- Or even better, to bridge their #fediverse accounts with #bridgyfedThe best thing I could find about this news, is to spread the concept of different federated servers, to the european people on #atproto
They will see in action that an account they follow could simply migrate, and they could alsocc @hpod16
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️ More shocking news!
Christine Lagarde and the European Central Bank have just migrated to #WSocial too!!!
(For context, see the beginning of this thread).
I'm at a loss for words today. Truly.
What a world.
If you missed my exposés on this controversial, problematic company, here they are:
@_elena @HennaVirkkunen can we do something about this #WSocial drama ?
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️ More shocking news!
Christine Lagarde and the European Central Bank have just migrated to #WSocial too!!!
(For context, see the beginning of this thread).
I'm at a loss for words today. Truly.
What a world.
If you missed my exposés on this controversial, problematic company, here they are:
@_elena So W"social" have around… 300 users by now.
