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  • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

    @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

    True and in this case the choice between "The lesser of two evils" is likely to be the choice between somebody at worst not that good and someone for whom "disgustingly evil" is an actually valid description - and, if anything, an understatement.

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    #85

    @SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

    Write it, post it, send it: a rational approach to voting

    Receive in reply: voices whining they don't get perfect, have zero plans, make zero effort, then help fascism by not voting. Fucking losers. They howl about shitlibs and blue MAGA when in fact the only result of their ineffectual purity drama is to help MAGA if they don't vote

    Real life isn't a game of social media scorn, useless whiners

    Think. Act. Fight. #VOTE!

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

      Write it, post it, send it: a rational approach to voting

      Receive in reply: voices whining they don't get perfect, have zero plans, make zero effort, then help fascism by not voting. Fucking losers. They howl about shitlibs and blue MAGA when in fact the only result of their ineffectual purity drama is to help MAGA if they don't vote

      Real life isn't a game of social media scorn, useless whiners

      Think. Act. Fight. #VOTE!

      suneauken@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #86

      @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

      And you literally can't tell who is the toxic supposed left winger and who is the MAGA sock puppet.

      Personally, I take them all to be sock puppets and just block.

      #ShrugAndBlock

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      • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

        @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

        True and in this case the choice between "The lesser of two evils" is likely to be the choice between somebody at worst not that good and someone for whom "disgustingly evil" is an actually valid description - and, if anything, an understatement.

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        #87

        @SuneAuken @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks If we're not careful, especially with the primary, we could validate some of the awful though.

        The Overton Window has shifted now to make Newsom mainstream with his anti-trans and anti-homeless (anti-Labor in the big picture) policies.

        If he's the nominee then he's the nominee, but real harm is going to result from it.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

          Write it, post it, send it: a rational approach to voting

          Receive in reply: voices whining they don't get perfect, have zero plans, make zero effort, then help fascism by not voting. Fucking losers. They howl about shitlibs and blue MAGA when in fact the only result of their ineffectual purity drama is to help MAGA if they don't vote

          Real life isn't a game of social media scorn, useless whiners

          Think. Act. Fight. #VOTE!

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          #88

          @benroyce @SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

          Such a shame that you have to cry out like an Old Testament prophet to an indifferent, apathetic public, Ben. The palpable truth and wisdom of your jeremiad really shouldn't need such repetition, but sadly it does.
          @copter_chief
          @SherBeareth
          @JonChevreau

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          • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

            @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

            And you literally can't tell who is the toxic supposed left winger and who is the MAGA sock puppet.

            Personally, I take them all to be sock puppets and just block.

            #ShrugAndBlock

            knutson_brain@sfba.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #89

            @SuneAuken Heuristic : Block toxicity

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            • gooba42@mastodon.socialG gooba42@mastodon.social

              @SuneAuken @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks If we're not careful, especially with the primary, we could validate some of the awful though.

              The Overton Window has shifted now to make Newsom mainstream with his anti-trans and anti-homeless (anti-Labor in the big picture) policies.

              If he's the nominee then he's the nominee, but real harm is going to result from it.

              c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #90

              @gooba42
              The difference between Newsom and any Republican is: Newsom is an opportunist, and the Rs are a bunch of white Christofascists with no mental flexibility. Newsom can be swayed by the public, whereas the Rs actively disdain anyone not one of them.

              Mind you, I am not fond of him, but compared to the deep MAGAts, he is slightly better.

              @SuneAuken @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

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              • c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC c_merriweather@social.linux.pizza

                @gooba42
                The difference between Newsom and any Republican is: Newsom is an opportunist, and the Rs are a bunch of white Christofascists with no mental flexibility. Newsom can be swayed by the public, whereas the Rs actively disdain anyone not one of them.

                Mind you, I am not fond of him, but compared to the deep MAGAts, he is slightly better.

                @SuneAuken @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

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                #91

                @c_merriweather @SuneAuken @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks No doubt, I'll hold my nose and vote for him if necessary but I really wish the bar were higher.

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                • idahobucks@mastodon.socialI idahobucks@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce you are missing the big picture. There is no real push back at all right now. We the people seem to think the Dems will save us which is not the case. We are in the five alarm stage now and people keep talking about voting and laws. The president doesn't worry about laws as he does what he wants like making himself billions of dollars. I have no idea what to do and don't see any real push back. Minnesota pushed back for a while and it's over even though ICE is in the suburbs right now.

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                  #92

                  @idahobucks @benroyce

                  Sorry Ben yelled at you: I followed you.
                  You are both right, just about different things

                  The Dems right now are just non-active seat warmers. I don't see that changing, but they will fix the current, but broken, systems.

                  It's just fixing the ACA is barely a band aid, and Not going to war as a diversionary tactic the barest of minimums.

                  The primaries are our chance to elect actually socially conscious persons (Mamdani s) to Dem seats. Then the future has a chance.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @Wyatt_H_Knott @moz @idahobucks

                    nonvoters are as bad as MAGA

                    they don't fall for the same psyop, they fall for a different psyop than the one played on MAGA, but coming from the same agenda

                    that agenda is: goose the right vote, suppress the left vote

                    so for MAGA they give excitement, encouragement, support

                    for the left they give helplessness, scorn, defeatism

                    and it fucking works

                    *because* so many on the left don't have a fucking backbone

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                    #93

                    @benroyce @Wyatt_H_Knott @moz @idahobucks The reason psyops work for both groups: Bigotry & hate.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @hans

                      the vote is controlled by the states

                      i am not registering my disagreement with you i am registering my disgust with you

                      if you say the midterms aren't real, people have no reason to vote, therefore MAGA wins

                      is this what you want?

                      are you trying to help trump on purpose?

                      i don't think so

                      but *you are* helping trump with such ignorant cynical and cowardly words

                      do not say these lies about the midterms ever again

                      hans@social.woefdram.nlH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #94
                      @Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 Wow, easy, we're on the same side, we both want MAGA dead and buried.

                      What I'm trying to say is that these are different times, things have changed. Both Putin and Agent Orange see Orbán as their friend, and none of those three give a rat's ass about law or democracy.

                      Putin and Orbán have been playing dirty for years, there is no reason to assume the Tantrum Toddler is any different. Especially because he already promised that "you won't have to vote again, it's all arranged".

                      More recently he suggested the midterms were unnecessary, the Republicans should cancel them, and the state (i.e. he and his henchmen) should take over the elections in blue states. And what about the "find me enough votes" and seizing Georgia ballots?

                      I don't trust Krasnov, and I'm afraid that if the US people do, they will be lulled into accepting a red victory in November.

                      But if his popularity keeps free falling like it does now, he'll understand he can't get away with stealing the elections, so he'll cancel them completely.

                      A state of emergency would do, right? So I expect him to start a war in Iran. No, wait, not a war but a special military operation. If it goes well enough to boost his popularity, that's enough. And if not, he uses it to cancel (no, wait: postpone) the elections.

                      You got to understand that he and Putin are the same creepy, untrustworthy bastards. Only difference is that Putin has a brain of his own.

                      Waiting to kick this orange menace out because "the midterms will do that" seems fatally naive...
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                      • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                        @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

                        True and in this case the choice between "The lesser of two evils" is likely to be the choice between somebody at worst not that good and someone for whom "disgustingly evil" is an actually valid description - and, if anything, an understatement.

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                        #95

                        @SuneAuken @benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

                        For once, this is not just about "the lesser of two evils". This midterm election November 3rd is different.

                        You are not voting:
                        republican versus democrat
                        red versus blue

                        You are voting:
                        fascism versus democracy
                        subjects versus citizens
                        trickle up versus trickle down
                        total control versus basic freedoms
                        no rights versus civil rights

                        It's not about the lesser of two evils. It's about #democracy winning over dictatorial autocracy.

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