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  • 707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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    #62

    @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

    Thank you, David!

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    • zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
      zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #63

      @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

      @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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      • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

        @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

        aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #64

        @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

        merci!

        Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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        • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

          @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

          merci!

          Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #65

          @Aepasek merci Anne !

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          • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

            @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #66

            @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

            P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

            @davidgerard

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #67

              @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

              @kawunngg

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              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                Some relevant examples:
                https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #68

                @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                @esi

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                  Do you have any recommendations?

                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                  drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  drewtowler@mas.to
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #69

                  @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                  • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                    @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #70

                    @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                    FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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                    • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                      @_elena
                      That's difficult.
                      Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

                      justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      justin@social.younger.wtf
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #71

                      @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

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                      • hwll@sunny.gardenH This user is from outside of this forum
                        hwll@sunny.gardenH This user is from outside of this forum
                        hwll@sunny.garden
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #72

                        @onepict @_elena @WeirdWriter well I'm fucking crying. Really damn good story, the first one. (Would read the second but I have to dry my cheeks and go to work, whew!)

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                          Do you have any recommendations?

                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                          dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                          dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                          dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #73

                          @_elena (I've allowed myself to cut the CC)
                          I'd add Ed Zitron (no known mastodon, IDK if his BS is bridged), yet his style is very… “raw”, yet to the point.

                          @aftermath.site and @404mediaco, but you probably already know (about) the individual creators.

                          IDK about Cory Doctorow with his late LLM usage confession with a preemptive rhetorical strike.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                            Do you have any recommendations?

                            So far, at the top of my list I have:

                            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                            csepp@merveilles.townC This user is from outside of this forum
                            csepp@merveilles.townC This user is from outside of this forum
                            csepp@merveilles.town
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #74

                            @_elena There is of course @algernon of Iocaine fame.

                            (re: CW, Mastodon has editing now, you could easily edit your post to add a CW if you forgot to)

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                              Do you have any recommendations?

                              So far, at the top of my list I have:

                              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                              ki@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                              ki@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                              ki@chaos.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #75

                              @_elena

                              good idea, added a respective hashtag to my bio

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                Do you have any recommendations?

                                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                paulatothepeople@climatejustice.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                paulatothepeople@climatejustice.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                paulatothepeople@climatejustice.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #76

                                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante

                                Shameless self-plug: You can add @PaulaToThePeople to the list. She hates AI with a passion, posts a lot under the hashtag #LLMMeAlone and moderates the only Fediverse instance I know of, where posting AI stuff is forbidden.

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  Dear Fedi friends,

                                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                  Do you have any recommendations?

                                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                  mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  mensrea@freeradical.zone
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #77

                                  @_elena looks like @parismarx is missing

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                    Do you have any recommendations?

                                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                    cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    cwebber@social.coop
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #78

                                    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante I would clarify also that I am not quite #NoAI in terms of AI tech, but I am definitely opposed to the *AI industry* and this hype wave. There may be various useful things from this tech, but the net version of things with it being forced upon society right now in this hype wave is that everything is getting much worse, and sickeningly so.

                                    Several more pieces need to be added to the puzzle to make "AI" tech more useful, and I'm also simply opposed to a direction in society that dismisses and devalues creative endeavors, which a lot of this hype is putting at the center of itself. Creativity is what makes life largely worthwhile. I'm not willing to give that up.

                                    I have no problem with OpenImageDenoiser in Blender, which speeds up renders through machine learning, and in no way devalues creativity. But something which made it so I just typed a few words into Blender and it did all my artwork for me, I would oppose.

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                                    • punissuer@universeodon.comP punissuer@universeodon.com

                                      @_elena @trezzer i would have thought that CWs are for topics that might trigger trauma or distress, and user filtering for I've-seen-enough-of-this-already 🤷

                                      trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      trezzer@social.linux.pizza
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #79

                                      @punissuer @_elena Yeah, this is getting up there. It is seriously bad for the mental state of many people with the constant bombardment from pro and con. The problem with blocking is the blanket wipe it would cause of science related to AI (not LLM) and mentions of AI as it has historically been understood (algorithms, machine learning, actual theoretical GAI). You basically can't escape the pro/con-LLM bullshit because people call it the wrong thing.

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante I would clarify also that I am not quite #NoAI in terms of AI tech, but I am definitely opposed to the *AI industry* and this hype wave. There may be various useful things from this tech, but the net version of things with it being forced upon society right now in this hype wave is that everything is getting much worse, and sickeningly so.

                                        Several more pieces need to be added to the puzzle to make "AI" tech more useful, and I'm also simply opposed to a direction in society that dismisses and devalues creative endeavors, which a lot of this hype is putting at the center of itself. Creativity is what makes life largely worthwhile. I'm not willing to give that up.

                                        I have no problem with OpenImageDenoiser in Blender, which speeds up renders through machine learning, and in no way devalues creativity. But something which made it so I just typed a few words into Blender and it did all my artwork for me, I would oppose.

                                        cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        cwebber@social.coop
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #80

                                        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante I also just add a little assertion that one other thing I hate about this moment of "AI" is that the field of "AI" has had many interesting branches in it, and now we only talk about one (machine learning models) and I am deeply bitter about that.

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @trezzer I feel really bad because I use CW super frequently.

                                          Sorry it didn't occur to me for this post but I will use CW from now on...

                                          gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          gbargoud@masto.nyc
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #81

                                          @_elena @trezzer

                                          The #NoAI tag is common enough that it's a good candidate for setting up a filter to turn any post with that tag into a CW post.

                                          I'm a fan of standard tags instead of CWs for things that are not violent or sexual but a decent sized group would want to hide since they give people the power to control their own timelines more effectively.

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