@davidho All good points, but note, most of the NSF budget has been restored.
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Possibly a time to research paths to Europe. Not that it is all rainbows and unicorns in Europe, but certainly more opporyunities for the times ahead -
time for science to pack up and leave the US permanently
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@davidho I decided not to pursue academia after my PhD, and have at times regretted it, but I would likely have been at the end of my second postdoc right now and completely and totally screwed. (If I even made it that far as a researcher)
I started my PhD as Trump's first term started, and I was worried at that time. It is nothing compared to now.
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@davidho China does and EU does how about pursuing life research in a more reasonable country
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This is what happens when you live under a regime that shuns anyone smarter than they are...
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@davidho China does and EU does how about pursuing life research in a more reasonable country
@Powerfromspace1 @davidho you are a bit too much optimistic about funding science in EU.
He talks about 4-8 grants per group... Postdocs (in plural!). Good luck with that here.
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time for science to pack up and leave the US permanently
@crumbletiltskin @davidho Like science did in 1933's Germany
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Possibly a time to research paths to Europe. Not that it is all rainbows and unicorns in Europe, but certainly more opporyunities for the times ahead -
@davidho I met with a friend today and the grant her lab was aiming for didn't come through. They're working on the next one but she's now down to 60% paid time. By December it will be 0 and she'll be laid off.
The average person doesn't understand the precariousness of the science community's funding situation. I don't know how you all manage to keep doing the science we need right now, this is beyond bad.
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@davidho as someone currently on the job market for postdocs, I have been feeling this very much.
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Everyone who believes Trump is playing 7D chess really needs to explain what the hell he is trying to do here. The greedy idiot doesn't appear to understand even the basics of investments.
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people elected dozens of other people who simply are not terribly bright and are resentful and derisive of those who are . so they are demolishing education and science like goon High schoolers on a drunken rampage. -
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@davidho these fucks really want to destroy America
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This is what happens when you live under a regime that shuns anyone smarter than they are...
@kitkat_blue @davidho Which more or equals, well, anyone.
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I'm looking forward to the science centre of gravity moving away from the USA - and hopefully past Europe towards the East and South.
@rapsneezy @davidho some European countries made a big deal of setting up money to attract Us scientists, but then cut their overall funding. E.g. France set up a €500 million fund but then cut by €1 billion. I have been very disappointed by their response, the EU could easily take up the slack from USAID cuts too, set up a program with fairer terms and start to make up for colonialism, but no it’s too expensive apparently (it’s not). Oh well China it is then.
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@rapsneezy @davidho some European countries made a big deal of setting up money to attract Us scientists, but then cut their overall funding. E.g. France set up a €500 million fund but then cut by €1 billion. I have been very disappointed by their response, the EU could easily take up the slack from USAID cuts too, set up a program with fairer terms and start to make up for colonialism, but no it’s too expensive apparently (it’s not). Oh well China it is then.
Just to be sure: You do know that the EU international aid was significantly more than what the US donated, even before Trump came into office, right? It's not like we are doing nothing.
I can't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like 55/45, with the most aid coming from the EU.
