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  • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

    I used a Norwegian open-source tool to analyze my old Spotify data as a customer.

    I don't use Spotify anymore, but I can announce that of all the money I ever paid them, approx. 5% went to the artists I listened to.

    That is a pretty insane transfer of wealth from the bottom / middle to the top if you ask me.

    I already knew Spotify is a big scam for those not at the top, but seeing the numbers still gives me a bodily reaction. 😢

    #spotify #bigtech #music

    geoffberner@zeroes.caG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #70

    @lislegaard or you could have asked any Norwegian musician.

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    • groot@toot.communityG groot@toot.community

      @firn @lislegaard many years ago I had children, so I'm getting unsolicited cat pics for the rest of my days on earth.

      matt@oslo.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #71

      @groot @firn @lislegaard can a cat pic ever be unsolicited. We all secretly want them, even if not spoken.

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      • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

        I used a Norwegian open-source tool to analyze my old Spotify data as a customer.

        I don't use Spotify anymore, but I can announce that of all the money I ever paid them, approx. 5% went to the artists I listened to.

        That is a pretty insane transfer of wealth from the bottom / middle to the top if you ask me.

        I already knew Spotify is a big scam for those not at the top, but seeing the numbers still gives me a bodily reaction. 😢

        #spotify #bigtech #music

        rozie@mastodon.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #72

        @lislegaard Could you provide the name of this tool?

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        • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

          I used a Norwegian open-source tool to analyze my old Spotify data as a customer.

          I don't use Spotify anymore, but I can announce that of all the money I ever paid them, approx. 5% went to the artists I listened to.

          That is a pretty insane transfer of wealth from the bottom / middle to the top if you ask me.

          I already knew Spotify is a big scam for those not at the top, but seeing the numbers still gives me a bodily reaction. 😢

          #spotify #bigtech #music

          lettosprey@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #73

          @lislegaard Yet most people seem to not want to go through the hassle of moving.

          Most people would probably save money buying music from the artist directly with a one time payment. You pay less, artist get more.

          But, convenience...

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          • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

            I used a Norwegian open-source tool to analyze my old Spotify data as a customer.

            I don't use Spotify anymore, but I can announce that of all the money I ever paid them, approx. 5% went to the artists I listened to.

            That is a pretty insane transfer of wealth from the bottom / middle to the top if you ask me.

            I already knew Spotify is a big scam for those not at the top, but seeing the numbers still gives me a bodily reaction. 😢

            #spotify #bigtech #music

            johan_e_m@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            johan_e_m@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            johan_e_m@mastodon.social
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            #74

            @lislegaard thieves are what they are😡

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            • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

              I used a Norwegian open-source tool to analyze my old Spotify data as a customer.

              I don't use Spotify anymore, but I can announce that of all the money I ever paid them, approx. 5% went to the artists I listened to.

              That is a pretty insane transfer of wealth from the bottom / middle to the top if you ask me.

              I already knew Spotify is a big scam for those not at the top, but seeing the numbers still gives me a bodily reaction. 😢

              #spotify #bigtech #music

              bigheadmode@social.linux.pizzaB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #75

              @lislegaard It's 100x more ethical to pirate all your music and give $10 per month to a random musician you like, than subscribe to a music streamer.

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              • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

                I used a Norwegian open-source tool to analyze my old Spotify data as a customer.

                I don't use Spotify anymore, but I can announce that of all the money I ever paid them, approx. 5% went to the artists I listened to.

                That is a pretty insane transfer of wealth from the bottom / middle to the top if you ask me.

                I already knew Spotify is a big scam for those not at the top, but seeing the numbers still gives me a bodily reaction. 😢

                #spotify #bigtech #music

                _mosso@fosstodon.org_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #76

                @lislegaard @pluralistic Any chance you could share a link to the tool? I've long given up on Spotify and now purchase through Bandcamp etc but I've always tried to illustrate this particular issue with friends who still continue to use Spotify and it would really help...

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                • _mosso@fosstodon.org_ _mosso@fosstodon.org

                  @lislegaard @pluralistic Any chance you could share a link to the tool? I've long given up on Spotify and now purchase through Bandcamp etc but I've always tried to illustrate this particular issue with friends who still continue to use Spotify and it would really help...

                  lislegaard@sonomu.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #77

                  @_mosso @pluralistic

                  https://banjohans.github.io/Spotify-Unwrapped/

                  "I've long given up on Spotify and now purchase through Bandcamp etc"

                  same! definitly the way! + i also buy some physical media at shows and in small record shops when i am on vacation 🙂

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                  • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

                    @_mosso @pluralistic

                    https://banjohans.github.io/Spotify-Unwrapped/

                    "I've long given up on Spotify and now purchase through Bandcamp etc"

                    same! definitly the way! + i also buy some physical media at shows and in small record shops when i am on vacation 🙂

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                    #78

                    @lislegaard @pluralistic Thank you so much! Fingers crossed it'll jolt a few people into rethinking how they listen...

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                    • _mosso@fosstodon.org_ _mosso@fosstodon.org

                      @lislegaard @pluralistic Thank you so much! Fingers crossed it'll jolt a few people into rethinking how they listen...

                      lislegaard@sonomu.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #79

                      @_mosso @pluralistic

                      yeah it is weird thing to tell people since music is such an emotional personal thing. almost like saying their best friend / personal hero is a creep when they get drunk or something. instant denial or full sadness.

                      i am moderating a panel about this during the second year of oslo's big tech gotta go-festival later this year. will be interesting to see what reaction these numbers get.

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                      • rozie@mastodon.onlineR rozie@mastodon.online

                        @lislegaard Could you provide the name of this tool?

                        lislegaard@sonomu.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #80

                        @rozie

                        https://banjohans.github.io/Spotify-Unwrapped/

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                        • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

                          I used a Norwegian open-source tool to analyze my old Spotify data as a customer.

                          I don't use Spotify anymore, but I can announce that of all the money I ever paid them, approx. 5% went to the artists I listened to.

                          That is a pretty insane transfer of wealth from the bottom / middle to the top if you ask me.

                          I already knew Spotify is a big scam for those not at the top, but seeing the numbers still gives me a bodily reaction. 😢

                          #spotify #bigtech #music

                          nick@social.smplfi.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #81

                          @lislegaard It makes no sense that the percentage of revenue should change based on the popularity of a particular artist. I think all companies should be transparent about their revenue split, and whenever they aren’t, I presume it’s malicious.

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                          • nick@social.smplfi.comN nick@social.smplfi.com

                            @lislegaard It makes no sense that the percentage of revenue should change based on the popularity of a particular artist. I think all companies should be transparent about their revenue split, and whenever they aren’t, I presume it’s malicious.

                            lislegaard@sonomu.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #82

                            @nick

                            yup! still we as a society got conned into using it! but it should be regulated. same with the rest of big tech, but we'll see what happens. maybe we see a split where only major label artists and slop is on the big streamers and all independent music is elsewhere. but it has been 20 years of this shit company now...

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                            • lislegaard@sonomu.clubL lislegaard@sonomu.club

                              @nick

                              yup! still we as a society got conned into using it! but it should be regulated. same with the rest of big tech, but we'll see what happens. maybe we see a split where only major label artists and slop is on the big streamers and all independent music is elsewhere. but it has been 20 years of this shit company now...

                              nick@social.smplfi.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #83

                              @lislegaard hopefully the answer is decentralization, more drm free content on indie websites, and direct to creator revenue. So much of the current ecosystem is based around the presumption of “protecting” revenue (from piracy, misattribution, etc.) but if 95% is going to the middlemen, how much is actually being protected? I’d rather build a better experience for my fans and make providing support as frictionless as possible.

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                              • nick@social.smplfi.comN nick@social.smplfi.com

                                @lislegaard hopefully the answer is decentralization, more drm free content on indie websites, and direct to creator revenue. So much of the current ecosystem is based around the presumption of “protecting” revenue (from piracy, misattribution, etc.) but if 95% is going to the middlemen, how much is actually being protected? I’d rather build a better experience for my fans and make providing support as frictionless as possible.

                                lislegaard@sonomu.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #84

                                @nick

                                yeah and in this case "the middlemen" is even other (super commercial) artists, so it is even weirder than we are used to.

                                i have some hope of the new generation learning about this stuff before they have gotten to tired to do something else and simply learn about files, maybe get a music player as a "symbol of coolness" or mobile os isn't just a duopoly in the future etc.

                                if you have to stream the road to bad is easy to end up in. if you can deal with files, you are free.

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