Skip to content
  • Hjem
  • Seneste
  • Etiketter
  • Populære
  • Verden
  • Bruger
  • Grupper
Temaer
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Kollaps
FARVEL BIG TECH
  1. Forside
  2. Ikke-kategoriseret
  3. I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Ikke-kategoriseret
10 Indlæg 8 Posters 0 Visninger
  • Ældste til nyeste
  • Nyeste til ældste
  • Most Votes
Svar
  • Svar som emne
Login for at svare
Denne tråd er blevet slettet. Kun brugere med emne behandlings privilegier kan se den.
  • evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
    evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
    evan@cosocial.ca
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #1

    I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

    "Why not just do it this other way instead?"

    It implies that the other way is faster, easier, or otherwise better, without actually providing any evidence to that effect.

    The person who made the original proposal has to research what those advantages might be and see if they actually apply to the current situation. This is information that the replier supposedly already has.

    If you know it's better, say why.

    maj@cosocial.caM gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.orgG spraoi@tooting.chS elliessurviving@tech.lgbtE dneary@mathstodon.xyzD 7 Replies Last reply
    0
    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

      "Why not just do it this other way instead?"

      It implies that the other way is faster, easier, or otherwise better, without actually providing any evidence to that effect.

      The person who made the original proposal has to research what those advantages might be and see if they actually apply to the current situation. This is information that the replier supposedly already has.

      If you know it's better, say why.

      maj@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
      maj@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
      maj@cosocial.ca
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @evan I've been trying to stamp out "Just" in my writing in general.

      Replacing it with a less weasely word illuminates what you're implying e.g. do you mean "Why not simply..."

      And then ask yourself is it really that *simple*?

      spraoi@tooting.chS 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

        I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

        "Why not just do it this other way instead?"

        It implies that the other way is faster, easier, or otherwise better, without actually providing any evidence to that effect.

        The person who made the original proposal has to research what those advantages might be and see if they actually apply to the current situation. This is information that the replier supposedly already has.

        If you know it's better, say why.

        gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
        gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
        gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.org
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @evan

        Like in my workshop: people says "Why you still use that miserable drill press and you don't buy a milling machine?", but nobody says "You filthy punk, I pity you! Here are $25000 to buy a decent milling machine."

        I wouldn't be offended at all.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

          I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

          "Why not just do it this other way instead?"

          It implies that the other way is faster, easier, or otherwise better, without actually providing any evidence to that effect.

          The person who made the original proposal has to research what those advantages might be and see if they actually apply to the current situation. This is information that the replier supposedly already has.

          If you know it's better, say why.

          spraoi@tooting.chS This user is from outside of this forum
          spraoi@tooting.chS This user is from outside of this forum
          spraoi@tooting.ch
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @evan

          I'm more inclined to start a take like this with "You've probably already examined and discarded this, but here's another way ..."

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • maj@cosocial.caM maj@cosocial.ca

            @evan I've been trying to stamp out "Just" in my writing in general.

            Replacing it with a less weasely word illuminates what you're implying e.g. do you mean "Why not simply..."

            And then ask yourself is it really that *simple*?

            spraoi@tooting.chS This user is from outside of this forum
            spraoi@tooting.chS This user is from outside of this forum
            spraoi@tooting.ch
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @maj @evan

            My vocabulary adjustment of the moment is to replace "only" with "exclusively". The word "only" as it turns out has subtle differences in meaning depending on its position in a sentence, and in Indian English can even be used for emphasis !

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

              "Why not just do it this other way instead?"

              It implies that the other way is faster, easier, or otherwise better, without actually providing any evidence to that effect.

              The person who made the original proposal has to research what those advantages might be and see if they actually apply to the current situation. This is information that the replier supposedly already has.

              If you know it's better, say why.

              elliessurviving@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
              elliessurviving@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
              elliessurviving@tech.lgbt
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @evan ill just say "ill personally just [insert thing here], [insert list of reasons why it works for me better than other things]", this way gives the suggestion but acknowledges different things work for different people, doesnt force them to even think about it, and if anyone else stumbles across and has a similar use case or wants to try for the list of reasons it works for me, they have that suggestion

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

                "Why not just do it this other way instead?"

                It implies that the other way is faster, easier, or otherwise better, without actually providing any evidence to that effect.

                The person who made the original proposal has to research what those advantages might be and see if they actually apply to the current situation. This is information that the replier supposedly already has.

                If you know it's better, say why.

                dneary@mathstodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
                dneary@mathstodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
                dneary@mathstodon.xyz
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @evan Yes! One of my pet hates. First it assumes that the person you are talking to knows better, and actively chose not to do something your way. It also assumes that you know all of the constraints that the person has. And as you say it assumes that *your* way is better/easier/faster without providing evidence.

                dneary@mathstodon.xyzD 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • dneary@mathstodon.xyzD dneary@mathstodon.xyz

                  @evan Yes! One of my pet hates. First it assumes that the person you are talking to knows better, and actively chose not to do something your way. It also assumes that you know all of the constraints that the person has. And as you say it assumes that *your* way is better/easier/faster without providing evidence.

                  dneary@mathstodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dneary@mathstodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dneary@mathstodon.xyz
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @evan I like "did you consider X?" as a conversation starter. If they did, then it's an easy conversation - if they did not, that's an opportunity for you to share why you think it's a better approach. If it's not too late for them to change their mind - and if it's too late, what's the value of informing them that they had another option? Is the point of your inquiry to communicate "If this comes up again, you might consider..." or "You fool, you should have..."

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

                    "Why not just do it this other way instead?"

                    It implies that the other way is faster, easier, or otherwise better, without actually providing any evidence to that effect.

                    The person who made the original proposal has to research what those advantages might be and see if they actually apply to the current situation. This is information that the replier supposedly already has.

                    If you know it's better, say why.

                    twotired@universeodon.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                    twotired@universeodon.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                    twotired@universeodon.com
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @evan Why not just follow the impulse of an ignorant person who has been aware of the problem for 90 seconds, rather than the carefully thought out plan of someone who has studied it extensively and thoroughly evaluated the complex ramifications?

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      I *hate* "why not just" as a reply.

                      "Why not just do it this other way instead?"

                      It implies that the other way is faster, easier, or otherwise better, without actually providing any evidence to that effect.

                      The person who made the original proposal has to research what those advantages might be and see if they actually apply to the current situation. This is information that the replier supposedly already has.

                      If you know it's better, say why.

                      malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                      malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                      malte@radikal.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @evan I dislike this genre of questions too. I think the right category for it is a leading question. Which means that it is actually not a question, but an opinion packaged as if it was a question. Typically, people who pose questions like that are not really interested in the answer. So people like me, who live by the value that people who ask me something, all things being equal, I owe them an answer - we end up wasting a lot of time.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      Svar
                      • Svar som emne
                      Login for at svare
                      • Ældste til nyeste
                      • Nyeste til ældste
                      • Most Votes


                      • Log ind

                      • Har du ikke en konto? Tilmeld

                      • Login or register to search.
                      Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                      Graciously hosted by data.coop
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Hjem
                      • Seneste
                      • Etiketter
                      • Populære
                      • Verden
                      • Bruger
                      • Grupper