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#PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    #PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

    If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

    The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

    The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

    Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

    - forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

    - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

    - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

    - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

    ---

    Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

    - forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

    - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

    - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

    - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

    ---

    "How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

    > Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

    "How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

    > Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

    "How do I know what to say?"

    > Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

    "Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

    > The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

    "Can you give me examples?"

    > Sure.

    You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

    Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

    "My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

    > Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

    "How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

    > Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

    #Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

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    #85

    @alice awesome advice.

    tho if they dont know mastodon, they might look even more confused when I tell them "@alice sends their regards" /s

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    • twotired@universeodon.comT twotired@universeodon.com

      @cynthiarose @PhoenixSerenity @alice

      Personally I like both and at times have been delighted to find the border somewhat fluid.

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      phoenixserenity@beige.party
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #86

      @Twotired
      I abhor both. I've removed many people who behave in those lack of direct communication ways.
      I'm into direct communications & no extra assumptions otherwise. I am autistic & cannot stand what I feel are bait/switch BS situations. I can't deal with full grown adults who refuse to communicate, directly or whom I feel have misled me with their true intentions.

      @cynthiarose @alice

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      • cynthiarose@sfba.socialC cynthiarose@sfba.social

        @PhoenixSerenity @alice

        Excellent! Love it!

        Man: She friend-zoned me 😭
        Woman: He fuck-zoned me 🙄

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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #87

        @cynthiarose
        Men who #FuckZone women hate it when we flip the tables. Too bad. They can stop complaining about being friend-zoned, when their goal was to net us into their fuck-zones.

        @alice

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        • autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA autisticplushy@lgbtqia.space

          @alice I am going to give random strangers my handle of mastodon in the supermarket

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          #88

          @autisticplushy @alice I printed Moo MiniCards for the first time in 12 or so years, with my email/Mastodon/Flickr/Signal details. They were a combination of cool* photos I took and photos of my cat; I had to get another box done with just my cat, as her ones went quickly.

          I’m half-seriously considering getting a button badge made up reading “No I’m not on Instagram”

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            #PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

            If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

            The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

            The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

            Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

            - forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

            - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

            - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

            - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

            ---

            Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

            - forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

            - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

            - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

            - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

            ---

            "How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

            > Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

            "How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

            > Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

            "How do I know what to say?"

            > Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

            "Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

            > The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

            "Can you give me examples?"

            > Sure.

            You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

            Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

            "My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

            > Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

            "How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

            > Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

            #Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

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            #89

            @alice good advice!

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            • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

              @alice What are some ways you've asked (not necessarily re kissing, but it's a good example)?

              I think I've used
              "Can I kiss you?"
              "I would very much like to kiss you." (Delivery is everything, eye contact is an absolute must, "smolder" is advised.)
              "I was just thinking about how much I'd like to kiss you."

              And one that I remember for sure--I like turning the question on its ear:
              "Why haven't you kissed me yet?"

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              #90

              @ZenHeathen "Why haven't you kissed me yet?" feels like it puts me in a position of having to explain why I've disappointed you in some way, but good delivery *could* still make it land well.

              I've gotten "can I kiss you?" several times, and it's what I use most often as well. Though I did get one person who replied "I don't know, can you?" which prompted an exaggerated 🙄 from me...then we kissed.

              One girl, when I was younger, came up, stood shoulder to shoulder next to me and just casually said "hey, I think you're hot, wanna make out?". I flustered and declined, citing that I didn't really know her. She said she'd save a seat on the bus in case I wanted to get go know her. We ended up dating for a little while.

              A guy followed me into the bathroom at a bar and asked if he could "help". That didn't go over well.

              I've had someone say "I'd like to kiss you, if that's okay". We kissed in the park, and ended up making out in their car for a while, but there wasn't really a spark, so I didn't opt for a second date.

              Someone once asked "can I taste your lips?". That was kind of hot, but I think it was the attractive goth delivering the question more than the question itself.

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                @eruonna if their orientation likely excludes your gender, you're *probably* right that they're just being friendly, but you might also be surprised.

                I've ended up dating men and women, gay and straight, and many who didn't fit one of those neat categories—sometimes to both our surprise.

                ⚠️ This is not to say their orientations weren't what they said they were, or that you can "change" someone (there's no sex *that* good), but that attraction is messy and weird sometimes.

                Also, you have lovely hair 😊

                @Bel_tamtu

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                #91

                @alice @eruonna @Bel_tamtu people's guesses of others' sexuality is wrong all the time, too. I think when I flirt with women, especially cis women outside of sapphic specific spaces, they usually just assume I'm being friendly. Once I mentioned a girlfriend and my coworker looked at me with a lot of confusion for a sec before going "OH, you're BI!" 🙄 I don't even like men.

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  @ZenHeathen "Why haven't you kissed me yet?" feels like it puts me in a position of having to explain why I've disappointed you in some way, but good delivery *could* still make it land well.

                  I've gotten "can I kiss you?" several times, and it's what I use most often as well. Though I did get one person who replied "I don't know, can you?" which prompted an exaggerated 🙄 from me...then we kissed.

                  One girl, when I was younger, came up, stood shoulder to shoulder next to me and just casually said "hey, I think you're hot, wanna make out?". I flustered and declined, citing that I didn't really know her. She said she'd save a seat on the bus in case I wanted to get go know her. We ended up dating for a little while.

                  A guy followed me into the bathroom at a bar and asked if he could "help". That didn't go over well.

                  I've had someone say "I'd like to kiss you, if that's okay". We kissed in the park, and ended up making out in their car for a while, but there wasn't really a spark, so I didn't opt for a second date.

                  Someone once asked "can I taste your lips?". That was kind of hot, but I think it was the attractive goth delivering the question more than the question itself.

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                  #92

                  @alice Yeah, that line of mine--as I suggested above--came along with reading the person and the moment. The devilish grin I'm known for didn't hurt, either. She took the invitation, and there was... a little less talking afterward. True, though--not something for just any situation.

                  Ooh, that "taste" line. That's hot.

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    #PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

                    If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

                    The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

                    The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

                    Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

                    - forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

                    - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                    - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

                    - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

                    ---

                    Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

                    - forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

                    - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                    - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

                    - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

                    ---

                    "How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

                    > Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

                    "How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

                    > Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

                    "How do I know what to say?"

                    > Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

                    "Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

                    > The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

                    "Can you give me examples?"

                    > Sure.

                    You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

                    Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

                    "My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

                    > Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

                    "How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

                    > Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

                    #Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

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                    #93

                    @alice

                    Great piece!

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      #PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

                      If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

                      The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

                      The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

                      Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

                      - forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

                      - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                      - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

                      - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

                      ---

                      Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

                      - forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

                      - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                      - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

                      - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

                      ---

                      "How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

                      > Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

                      "How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

                      > Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

                      "How do I know what to say?"

                      > Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

                      "Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

                      > The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

                      "Can you give me examples?"

                      > Sure.

                      You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

                      Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

                      "My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

                      > Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

                      "How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

                      > Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

                      #Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

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                      #94

                      @alice filling up my bookmarks folder one post at a time lol

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        @ZenHeathen "Why haven't you kissed me yet?" feels like it puts me in a position of having to explain why I've disappointed you in some way, but good delivery *could* still make it land well.

                        I've gotten "can I kiss you?" several times, and it's what I use most often as well. Though I did get one person who replied "I don't know, can you?" which prompted an exaggerated 🙄 from me...then we kissed.

                        One girl, when I was younger, came up, stood shoulder to shoulder next to me and just casually said "hey, I think you're hot, wanna make out?". I flustered and declined, citing that I didn't really know her. She said she'd save a seat on the bus in case I wanted to get go know her. We ended up dating for a little while.

                        A guy followed me into the bathroom at a bar and asked if he could "help". That didn't go over well.

                        I've had someone say "I'd like to kiss you, if that's okay". We kissed in the park, and ended up making out in their car for a while, but there wasn't really a spark, so I didn't opt for a second date.

                        Someone once asked "can I taste your lips?". That was kind of hot, but I think it was the attractive goth delivering the question more than the question itself.

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                        #95

                        @alice @ZenHeathen
                        "You don't know me well enough? That's fair. Here's a seat next to me so we can work on that first, if you want." *pat pat*

                        🥹 Adorable

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                        • twotired@universeodon.comT twotired@universeodon.com

                          @cynthiarose @PhoenixSerenity @alice

                          Personally I like both and at times have been delighted to find the border somewhat fluid.

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                          #96

                          @Twotired
                          It's not actually fluid when any woman clearly states - I want strictly platonic friendship & the man agrees to that, only to freak out, when we don't want ANY personal intimacy with them. That is a violation of personal boundaries, clearly stated, prior & that is not OK.

                          @cynthiarose @alice

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                          • phoenixserenity@beige.partyP phoenixserenity@beige.party

                            @Twotired
                            I abhor both. I've removed many people who behave in those lack of direct communication ways.
                            I'm into direct communications & no extra assumptions otherwise. I am autistic & cannot stand what I feel are bait/switch BS situations. I can't deal with full grown adults who refuse to communicate, directly or whom I feel have misled me with their true intentions.

                            @cynthiarose @alice

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                            #97

                            @PhoenixSerenity I'm pretty flexible as long as intentions are clear and boundaries aren't crossed.

                            "I'm (not) interested in an intimate relationship."

                            Both are valid (though mutually exclusive) positions, and I can make an informed decision on how to proceed (or not).

                            It's the people who hide their intentions, or that don't respect boundaries or autonomy, that piss me off.

                            @Twotired @cynthiarose

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              #PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

                              If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

                              The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

                              The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

                              Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

                              - forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

                              - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                              - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

                              - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

                              ---

                              Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

                              - forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

                              - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                              - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

                              - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

                              ---

                              "How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

                              > Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

                              "How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

                              > Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

                              "How do I know what to say?"

                              > Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

                              "Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

                              > The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

                              "Can you give me examples?"

                              > Sure.

                              You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

                              Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

                              "My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

                              > Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

                              "How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

                              > Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

                              #Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

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                              #98

                              @alice I love this so much. I'll definitely say I'm your friend!! 🌻✨
                              Thank you for that!

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                @PhoenixSerenity I'm pretty flexible as long as intentions are clear and boundaries aren't crossed.

                                "I'm (not) interested in an intimate relationship."

                                Both are valid (though mutually exclusive) positions, and I can make an informed decision on how to proceed (or not).

                                It's the people who hide their intentions, or that don't respect boundaries or autonomy, that piss me off.

                                @Twotired @cynthiarose

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                                #99

                                @alice
                                "It's the people who hide their intentions, or that don't respect boundaries or autonomy, that piss me off."

                                Exactly this.

                                @Twotired @cynthiarose

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                                • ushnu2@mastodon.socialU ushnu2@mastodon.social

                                  @alice beautifully written , thanks for the sense of humor and structure

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                                  #100

                                  @ushnu2 thank you 😊 I'm glad you liked it.

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    #PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

                                    If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

                                    The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

                                    The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

                                    Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

                                    - forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

                                    - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                                    - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

                                    - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

                                    ---

                                    Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

                                    - forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

                                    - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                                    - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

                                    - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

                                    ---

                                    "How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

                                    > Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

                                    "How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

                                    > Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

                                    "How do I know what to say?"

                                    > Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

                                    "Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

                                    > The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

                                    "Can you give me examples?"

                                    > Sure.

                                    You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

                                    Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

                                    "My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

                                    > Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

                                    "How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

                                    > Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

                                    #Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

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                                    #101

                                    @alice okay, speaking as someone who got conditioned to play Jenga only competitively, this is an amazing and eye-opening analogy.

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      #PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

                                      If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

                                      The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

                                      The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

                                      Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

                                      - forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

                                      - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                                      - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

                                      - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

                                      ---

                                      Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

                                      - forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

                                      - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                                      - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

                                      - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

                                      ---

                                      "How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

                                      > Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

                                      "How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

                                      > Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

                                      "How do I know what to say?"

                                      > Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

                                      "Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

                                      > The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

                                      "Can you give me examples?"

                                      > Sure.

                                      You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

                                      Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

                                      "My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

                                      > Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

                                      "How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

                                      > Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

                                      #Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

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                                      #102

                                      @alice Terrific!

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                                      • jesuisatire@social.tchncs.deJ jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de

                                        @alice

                                        Sounds good to me.
                                        Actually quite often someone you know just doesn't to fit to end up sharing the ultimate pleasure with. Perhaps because they only are about reaching their very own shenga.

                                        .. anyway, this already sounds like you are on your way to flirt with me. And to be sincere, we Bonobos do not have sexual intercourse with other species like some of you humans, that's kinda creepy for us. Well, in general we do not have your problems, we live in a matriarchy, that's way easier and our girls have no problems to help us out when ever we become to aroused. As they rule, they don't have to fear us ..
                                        🙂

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                                        #103

                                        @jesuisatire just about every species seems to have its jerks: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/male-bonobos-close-human-relatives-long-thought-to-be-peaceful-are-actually-quite-aggressive-study-suggests-180984157/

                                        I came across this article while looking up bonobos in my "are there any species that aren't assholes?" thread.

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          #PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

                                          If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

                                          The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

                                          The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

                                          Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

                                          - forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

                                          - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                                          - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

                                          - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

                                          ---

                                          Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

                                          - forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

                                          - making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

                                          - trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

                                          - dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

                                          ---

                                          "How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

                                          > Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

                                          "How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

                                          > Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

                                          "How do I know what to say?"

                                          > Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

                                          "Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

                                          > The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

                                          "Can you give me examples?"

                                          > Sure.

                                          You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

                                          Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

                                          "My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

                                          > Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

                                          "How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

                                          > Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

                                          #Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

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                                          #104

                                          @alice play jenga with old vhs tapes and watch the one that makes the stack fall.

                                          yes -redlettermedia did it, still a good idea. I think they stopped because they kept breaking them when they fell over lol.

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