Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'.
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Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then?
Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...> mixed opinions about gentoo
fwiw, I'm running gentoo on linux still. It's decent.
Not sure how good it is on arm mac tho
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Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then?
Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...@nina_kali_nina no fan of debian ?
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Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then?
Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...@nina_kali_nina did you try Asahi Linux?
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Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then?
Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...@nina_kali_nina if you have time to spare Gentoo is really a fine distro. You'll have to spend some time and effort installing it, but you'll get all that time back in the following years as it's a breeze to keep up-to-date and its flexibility allows you to change it at your will while without having to reinstall
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Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then?
Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...@nina_kali_nina How is fedora pro-AI?
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Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then?
Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...@nina_kali_nina NetBSD apparently bans LLM output, and version 11 is nigh.
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@nina_kali_nina NetBSD apparently bans LLM output, and version 11 is nigh.
@bthylafh It looks like Apple Silicon is only supported minimally - e.g. no wifi, maybe not even keyboard or trackpad :<
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@nina_kali_nina wait... wasn't the default Linux on Arm mac arch btw?
@petko it was, long time ago. It's been Fedora for a couple of years now, I think
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@nina_kali_nina also did you decide to move on from macos because of the vista-inspured UI?
@petko Tahoe is painful to look at, it's full of "Apple Intelligence" stuff (that for now can be disabled, but newer versions might not have the knob for it), newer OS will drop the support for Rosetta 2 that I quite like, and eventually they'll drop the support for the device itself. So I thought I should prepare to be moving off the MacOS, as I don't plan to get a new Apple computer in the future.
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@nina_kali_nina looks like more than i thought is working well actually, i just had to find my way to the wiki page for the generic aarch64 mac support: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Apple_M-series_Macs_(apple-mac-aarch64)
@rudi it sounds a bit complicated... I don't want to break an existing OS by mistyping a command or something. :<
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@nina_kali_nina no fan of debian ?
@otyugh well, I'll have to stay on pre-AI debian :3 It's kind of iffy to have python3-llm-anthropic and such in the main repo
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@nina_kali_nina did you try Asahi Linux?
@ssekret Asahi Linux _is_ Fedora Remix
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@nina_kali_nina if you have time to spare Gentoo is really a fine distro. You'll have to spend some time and effort installing it, but you'll get all that time back in the following years as it's a breeze to keep up-to-date and its flexibility allows you to change it at your will while without having to reinstall
@gabrielesvelto I wonder what the community is like

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@nina_kali_nina How is fedora pro-AI?
@tarxz they explicitly allow AI contributions (as long as they're marked as such): https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/542
Though it is an increasingly common stance, unfortunately.
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Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then?
Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad... -
@speaktrap they don't have a strong stance on LLM usage, it seems.

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@tarxz they explicitly allow AI contributions (as long as they're marked as such): https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/542
Though it is an increasingly common stance, unfortunately.
@nina_kali_nina Feels like that'll end up being the stance of most projects unless there are legal/licensing consequences

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@bthylafh It looks like Apple Silicon is only supported minimally - e.g. no wifi, maybe not even keyboard or trackpad :<
@nina_kali_nina @bthylafh IIRC, the Asahi graphics drivers are written in rust, which means they aren't showing up in any of the BSDs any time soon. NetBSD, in particular, supports architectures that rust likely never will. This also M1 support is likely to remain minimal for quite a while.
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@gabrielesvelto I wonder what the community is like

@nina_kali_nina Gentoo user here, the community is pretty chill and helpful. Not what you find in Arch communities, for example. Every time I had an issue and asked on IRC, they never questioned/judged me, just helped me straight away.
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@otyugh well, I'll have to stay on pre-AI debian :3 It's kind of iffy to have python3-llm-anthropic and such in the main repo
@nina_kali_nina Damn. I read it from you and forgot >_<
They seem to still fidget around not doing anything decisive : https://lwn.net/Articles/972331/
Darn. Wakey wakey
