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  • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

    Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

    #MachineSociety

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    #24

    这网站挺直观的,红绿对比一看就知道烧钱有多猛。AI搞到现在到底能不能赚钱,感觉还早得很啊。

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    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

      #MachineSociety

      nick_appleyard@mastodonapp.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #25

      @MikeElgan
      No, surely that can’t be right. Because the #SpaceX S-1 filing says the market for xAI applications is $22700 billion. And that’s gospel!

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      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

        #MachineSociety

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        thefeditest@mastodon.social
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        #26

        @MikeElgan as Putin would say: "It is not a fall it is a negative growth"

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        • T thefeditest@mastodon.social

          @MikeElgan as Putin would say: "It is not a fall it is a negative growth"

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          #27

          @MikeElgan 🤣

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          • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

            Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

            #MachineSociety

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            #28

            @MikeElgan Funny how OpenAI in this context looks almost profitable yet it's often predicted to go down first

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            • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

              Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

              #MachineSociety

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              #29

              @MikeElgan that's a great visualisation. So #Nvidia is the only company shown that is profiting. I wonder which other sectors or companies are raking it in. I was thinking cloud, but look at Amazon. Surely some are profiting? And 👍 to see where the funding is coming from.

              Also, I hope he'll add a time based graph so we can watch the trend, but this is awesome.

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              • assimilateborg@kind.socialA assimilateborg@kind.social

                @MikeElgan I first thought: bizarre, 1400 spent and 600 revenue, but the graphs say it's way less than half. Then I saw the winer at the bottom: NVIDIA. They have all the revenue.

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                #30

                @assimilateborg @MikeElgan Well... maybe. NVIDIA seems to be lending money to the frontier corporations in order to buy its own hardware, creating circular spending that inflates its stock price.

                https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2026-ai-circular-deals/

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                • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                  Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                  #MachineSociety

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                  #31

                  @MikeElgan Can we get NVidia and Micron in there for a bit of balance please ?

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                  • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                    Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                    #MachineSociety

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                    #32

                    @MikeElgan

                    Imagine all that money being spent on healthcare, education, housing, infrastructure, sustainable energy and poverty?

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                    • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                      @MikeElgan So Nvidia's making a killing...?!

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                      #33

                      @dancingtreefrog @MikeElgan
                      Nvidia is selling the rest of the companies graphics cards to do AI

                      its making a killing off people wasting money

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                      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                        #MachineSociety

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                        #34

                        @MikeElgan I was wondering how on earth they got to >600B revenue in total until I scrolled down far enough to see NVIDIA 🤪

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                        • hatter@metasocial.comH hatter@metasocial.com

                          @MikeElgan Can we get NVidia and Micron in there for a bit of balance please ?

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                          #35

                          @hatter @MikeElgan nvidia is there on the page, just not on the screenshot

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                          • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                            Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                            #MachineSociety

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                            #36
                            @MikeElgan it's so funny how the one company making money is the one selling shovels
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                            • sebastian@norrebro.spaceS sebastian@norrebro.space

                              @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan

                              That's one aspect - #AI as a fossil fuel support industry.
                              Secondly, killing off the free information web, journalism, art, creativity for good - that's worth the initial losses.

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                              #37

                              @sebastian @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan
                              The funny thing is that they utterly depend on those industries for content to train their lying machines, so its a bit hard to see a future for those machines

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                              • wortex17@mastodon.gamedev.placeW wortex17@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                @hatter @MikeElgan nvidia is there on the page, just not on the screenshot

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                                #38

                                @Wortex17 Ah so it is - nice contrast.

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                                • julesbl@mastodon.me.ukJ julesbl@mastodon.me.uk

                                  @sebastian @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan
                                  The funny thing is that they utterly depend on those industries for content to train their lying machines, so its a bit hard to see a future for those machines

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                                  #39

                                  @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan
                                  Yes, that might become interesting ... Snake choking on its own tail ... Or rather its own excrements.
                                  Perhaps new models of monetization? Content sweatshops (well, we kinda have those already)?
                                  The degradation already shows ... The web drowning in its own slop.

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                                  • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                    Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                    #MachineSociety

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                                    #40

                                    @MikeElgan

                                    Omg bookmarked immediately.

                                    I'm under the impression that Midjourney is profitable? (at least for now, lawsuits pending)

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                                    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                      #MachineSociety

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                                      #41

                                      @MikeElgan pure insanity

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                                      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                        #MachineSociety

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                                        #42

                                        @mpjgregoire @ChrisMayLA6 @peterbrown

                                        The link has a nice near real-time graph of the spending.
                                        Only Nvidia has made any money.
                                        Oracle hasn't lost anywhere near enough to suit me yet.


                                        @MikeElgan

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                                        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                          #MachineSociety

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                                          #43

                                          now you can keep track of how many billions in tax payers’ money big statistics are planning to get bailed out

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