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We haven't seen the first great AI collapse.

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    We haven't seen the first great AI collapse. We haven't seen a foundation model company make the BlackBerry mistake or the Nokia mistake, or the Roman mistake, or the Ottoman mistake or reach their Bunker-in-Berlin mistake. But we will, and we'll see it multiple times, because these mistakes = features of power concentration.

    https://www.joanwestenberg.com/the-empire-always-falls/

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      We haven't seen the first great AI collapse. We haven't seen a foundation model company make the BlackBerry mistake or the Nokia mistake, or the Roman mistake, or the Ottoman mistake or reach their Bunker-in-Berlin mistake. But we will, and we'll see it multiple times, because these mistakes = features of power concentration.

      https://www.joanwestenberg.com/the-empire-always-falls/

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      @Daojoan I saw Trajan's military road and the remain of the bridge he had built to push the empire beyond the Danube and conquer Dacia. It was the longest bridge in the world at the time and with the greatest spans and nobody would build a bigger one for a millennium. Within about 165 years, the Romans themselves had to burn it to prevent counter-invasion along the same roads they had once built. Victory is a fleeting thing.

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        @Daojoan I saw Trajan's military road and the remain of the bridge he had built to push the empire beyond the Danube and conquer Dacia. It was the longest bridge in the world at the time and with the greatest spans and nobody would build a bigger one for a millennium. Within about 165 years, the Romans themselves had to burn it to prevent counter-invasion along the same roads they had once built. Victory is a fleeting thing.

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        @Infoseepage @Daojoan but it stood for 165 years, which for the people living on both sides of the bridge, was more than a lifetime. Not inspiring for me as a living person with a limited life span; that scheme is a bit too grand.

        May I see the abolition of AI within my lifetime please.

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        • lizzard@social.tchncs.deL lizzard@social.tchncs.de

          @Infoseepage @Daojoan but it stood for 165 years, which for the people living on both sides of the bridge, was more than a lifetime. Not inspiring for me as a living person with a limited life span; that scheme is a bit too grand.

          May I see the abolition of AI within my lifetime please.

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          @lizzard @Daojoan Hitler was made chancellor in 1933. He blew out his brains in 1945. His thousand year Reich lasted a dozen years. Maybe not the best encouraging example, as tens of millions of people died because of him. Let's hope AI flops with a whimper, quickly and doesn't take the world economy with it.

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            We haven't seen the first great AI collapse. We haven't seen a foundation model company make the BlackBerry mistake or the Nokia mistake, or the Roman mistake, or the Ottoman mistake or reach their Bunker-in-Berlin mistake. But we will, and we'll see it multiple times, because these mistakes = features of power concentration.

            https://www.joanwestenberg.com/the-empire-always-falls/

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            @Daojoan We have but AI was smaller then and we called them "Winters" not "bubbles". Each one was the result of over-hyping an immature product, leading to market disappointment. Why can't humans learn?

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              We haven't seen the first great AI collapse. We haven't seen a foundation model company make the BlackBerry mistake or the Nokia mistake, or the Roman mistake, or the Ottoman mistake or reach their Bunker-in-Berlin mistake. But we will, and we'll see it multiple times, because these mistakes = features of power concentration.

              https://www.joanwestenberg.com/the-empire-always-falls/

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              @Daojoan Innovators Dilemma by Clayton Christensen said same thing. Disruption only happens with incumbents demise.

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              • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

                @lizzard @Daojoan Hitler was made chancellor in 1933. He blew out his brains in 1945. His thousand year Reich lasted a dozen years. Maybe not the best encouraging example, as tens of millions of people died because of him. Let's hope AI flops with a whimper, quickly and doesn't take the world economy with it.

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                @Infoseepage @Daojoan you're right, and we both agree in our wish for it to be over soon.

                Not the best example still: I live in Germany, and*that* generational trauma is still felt here, three generations later.

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