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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

    https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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    #16

    @tante @huwr there are a lot of good points and criticisms here, but Peter is not the “tech bro wannabe Elon” you say he is. He’s actually a caring thoughtful human who will probably be really hurt by these words.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen thank you so much!

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      #17

      @tante @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen here’s the blog from Scott https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/ mind blowing.

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      • rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR rotnroll666@mastodon.social

        @tante @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen here’s the blog from Scott https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/ mind blowing.

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        #18

        @rotnroll666 The Kessler syndrome of the Internet.

        @tante @mttaggart

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

          https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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          #19

          @tante "but at least as secure as commercial offerings now slowing going down the drain."

          Shouldn't it be "slowly going down"?

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

            https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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            #20

            @tante
            Someone called vibe coded software the "fast fashion of software development" and that is kinda a good summary to get the point across to people unfamiliar with the FOSS ecosystem.

            What do you think?

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            • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

              @tante
              Someone called vibe coded software the "fast fashion of software development" and that is kinda a good summary to get the point across to people unfamiliar with the FOSS ecosystem.

              What do you think?

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              #21

              @agowa338 that might actually have been me 😉
              https://tante.cc/2026/01/15/software-as-fast-fashion/

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              • J jameswidman@mastodon.social

                @tante https://mastodon.social/@JamesWidman/116032953161658413

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                #22

                @JamesWidman
                We need to read Dune's works about the Butlerian Jihad.

                @tante

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  @agowa338 that might actually have been me 😉
                  https://tante.cc/2026/01/15/software-as-fast-fashion/

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                  #23

                  @tante
                  Oh, ok kinda liked that summary a bit more 🙂

                  Also regarding rejection of responsibility and care, I wonder how much longer that'll still be possible.
                  Esp. when things like the person asking in the company chat about the fire alarm being real got told by the chatbot it wasn't and that she doesn't have to leave get more widespread. Did you see that one?

                  https://mastodon.online/@tagir_valeev/116057271527521893

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                    https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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                    #24
                    The sad thing is that "open-source" has always been that: a libertarian "do what you want I'm not responsible" ecosystem. Libre software at least tried to make it so that you must make it a collective thing, but still with very little needed coordination. Not surprising seeing where those 2, and computing in general comes from (white rich cishet men who never had any real issues in their life)

                    What we need is to uproot this foundation. Start from a collective mindset, build from communities where we all listen and take care of each other. Taken to the extreme open licenses are useless: it is better to have a closed-source system that your community controls (ie the community has full control over what the thing does, but outsider don't necessarily) than an open-source system that everyone must understand on their own, leading to in practice control only by those who build it.
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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                      https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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                      #25

                      @tante very well said. His thirst for nazi-bar fame is apparent.

                      You didn’t even touch on the uselessness of the project: none of these incel-adjacent techbros need a (digital or not) assistant in their lives; they just want to feel important. Message “something” in their WhatsApp/telegram (not irc, jabber or matrix) instead of just opening their calendar app

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                        https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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                        #26

                        @tante "handing out running chainsaws to kids" that's exactly their way of responsibility.

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