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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you.

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  • orange@hachyderm.ioO orange@hachyderm.io

    @zackwhittaker Agreed! I find it even more concerning on the watch which is more easily concealed.
    Their touting of privacy seems to only concern the owner and ignores that of everyone else around them.
    Especially appalling in situations where people are asked for personal info such as banks, medical offices, etc.
    What an incredibly tone deaf feature in our current world.

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    #12

    @orange @zackwhittaker Think of it… a watch that records all sounds, glasses that record all you see, both concealed, working in tandem.

    I can see some accessibility merit for it, but bottom-line: this stuff is dangerous and we shouldn't want it.

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    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

      Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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      #13

      @zackwhittaker

      the end of privacy is the end of the Private Citizen

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      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

        Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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        #14

        @zackwhittaker don’t they already do this when listening for „Hey Siri“?

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        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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          #15
          @zackwhittaker Should not both sides agree to recording conversation?
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          • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

            Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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            #16

            @zackwhittaker So we have the PervertGlasses and now comes the StalkerPhone

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            • shadows@beige.partyS shadows@beige.party

              @NMBA @zackwhittaker no idea how it applies in Canada, but I seem to remember reading that there’s a device (a TV, I think) that already does this and informs the owner that it’s their responsibility to tell anyone that could be recorded. Same old pass the buck bullshit will likely be used by Apple.

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              #17

              @shadows @zackwhittaker
              Yep, and the law doesn't matter unless you want to present evidence in court.

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              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                #18

                @zackwhittaker Big techbro will be watching you.

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                • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                  Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                  #19

                  @zackwhittaker it’s also disappointing because it plays into existing conspiracy theories about “your phone is listening to you all the time”.

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                  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                    Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                    #20

                    @zackwhittaker Here’s the support page with additional details.
                    https://support.apple.com/en-us/148354

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                    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                      Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                      #21

                      @zackwhittaker

                      Who wants to design the phone box for anyone who enters my house to put their phone while they visit?

                      Seriously. I am so not tolerating this.

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                      • _scottd@mastodon.social_ _scottd@mastodon.social

                        @zackwhittaker You’re not wrong. I think as a society we’re about to have to navigate a whole lot of invasive technology. Be it Meta’s pervert glasses or an always on bugging device in someone’s pocket.

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                        #22

                        @_scottd @zackwhittaker

                        I'm trying to have some hope that the anarchist tech wizards of the web will surface in this time of need to offer us jamming devices - adversarial noise attacks on voice assistant tech like alexa or siri is already a thing. I'd obviously rather these creepy pieces of ewaste never be built, but I guess if you can't beat em, brick em with command injections xD

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                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                          #23

                          @zackwhittaker Yup!! 👍 Excellent take on snoop gear✊

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                          • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                            Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                            #24

                            @zackwhittaker@mastodon.social cool we have facebook creep glasses and apple creep phones now

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                            • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                              Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                              #25

                              @zackwhittaker LG enters the chat.

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                              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                                #26

                                @zackwhittaker We are living the dream. A by design always listening microphone always on us. What more could we possibly ask for!

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                                • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                  Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                                  #27

                                  @zackwhittaker This version of fascism is going to be completely impossible to circumvent
                                  It will quite literally be #1984 on steroids.
                                  but at least Winston could stand in the corner, away from the viewscreen

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                                  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                    Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                                    #28

                                    @zackwhittaker isn't this just illegal in all-party states? like, I don't know, _california_?

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                                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                      @zackwhittaker isn't this just illegal in all-party states? like, I don't know, _california_?

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                                      #29
                                      @glyph @zackwhittaker Nothing's illegal when it's a corporation doing it at scale!

                                      A few years ago even I might have thought that too glibly cynical, but
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                                      • sylvie@gabriel.havfruefestning.comS sylvie@gabriel.havfruefestning.com

                                        @zackwhittaker I was just about to toot about the weirdness of this feature. It has a summary "that let's you go back in time for 15 seconds", but also, somehow, "Privacy is protected at every step. These audio intelligence features do not create or store audio recordings."

                                        These back to back statements are at odds with each other unless there's some slimey technicality legalese that allow them to be true like 'we write a transcript which technically isn't an audio recording'

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                                        #30

                                        @sylvie @zackwhittaker
                                        "unless there's some slimey technicality legalese that allow them to be true like 'we write a transcript which technically isn't an audio recording'"

                                        You nailed it.

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                                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                                          #31

                                          @zackwhittaker

                                          My LG TV already does half of this.

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