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  3. Speaking as a parent my current opinion on internet age verification laws is that after the state starts putting the Epstein class in prison en masse then maybe we can start taking anything else they say about protecting children seriously.

Speaking as a parent my current opinion on internet age verification laws is that after the state starts putting the Epstein class in prison en masse then maybe we can start taking anything else they say about protecting children seriously.

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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Speaking as a parent my current opinion on internet age verification laws is that after the state starts putting the Epstein class in prison en masse then maybe we can start taking anything else they say about protecting children seriously.

    fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF schouten_b@mastodon.socialS clarfonthey@toot.catC ljwrites@writeout.inkL 4 Replies Last reply
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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      Speaking as a parent my current opinion on internet age verification laws is that after the state starts putting the Epstein class in prison en masse then maybe we can start taking anything else they say about protecting children seriously.

      fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mhoye it's part of Epstein's transphobia conspiracy. His same friends like haidt are pushing both

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      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

        Speaking as a parent my current opinion on internet age verification laws is that after the state starts putting the Epstein class in prison en masse then maybe we can start taking anything else they say about protecting children seriously.

        schouten_b@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @mhoye To be completely honest. My take here is that creeps like Epstein have been around for 100s of years. Be it in churches or a variety of other institutions.

        The mental health of young people (and beyond, to some extent, but let's stick to young people for now), by any objective standard that I am aware of, has taken an incredible plunge since the age of social media.

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        • schouten_b@mastodon.socialS schouten_b@mastodon.social

          @mhoye To be completely honest. My take here is that creeps like Epstein have been around for 100s of years. Be it in churches or a variety of other institutions.

          The mental health of young people (and beyond, to some extent, but let's stick to young people for now), by any objective standard that I am aware of, has taken an incredible plunge since the age of social media.

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          @mhoye (To be clear, I'm not sure age verification laws are the solution here.

          I strongly suspect social media are just as bad for mental health in adults, they just take longer to really have a measurable impact there.

          I don't actually know what the solution to the problem is. But I do think that it's important to acknowledge the body of evidence that social media, unlike the Epsteins of this world, poses a unique, unprecedented threat to mental health.)

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            @mhoye it's part of Epstein's transphobia conspiracy. His same friends like haidt are pushing both

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            @fluffykittycat @mhoye Presumably you are talking about Jonathan Haidt here? Is there any evidence here for a connection between Haidt and Epstein? I'm not aware of any.

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            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

              Speaking as a parent my current opinion on internet age verification laws is that after the state starts putting the Epstein class in prison en masse then maybe we can start taking anything else they say about protecting children seriously.

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              @mhoye this is an argument that has come up but this is the most succinctly put I've seen it

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              • schouten_b@mastodon.socialS schouten_b@mastodon.social

                @fluffykittycat @mhoye Presumably you are talking about Jonathan Haidt here? Is there any evidence here for a connection between Haidt and Epstein? I'm not aware of any.

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                @Schouten_B @mhoye https://transnews.network/p/epstein-backed-prominent-anti-trans-figures

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                • schouten_b@mastodon.socialS schouten_b@mastodon.social

                  @mhoye (To be clear, I'm not sure age verification laws are the solution here.

                  I strongly suspect social media are just as bad for mental health in adults, they just take longer to really have a measurable impact there.

                  I don't actually know what the solution to the problem is. But I do think that it's important to acknowledge the body of evidence that social media, unlike the Epsteins of this world, poses a unique, unprecedented threat to mental health.)

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                  @Schouten_B @mhoye I'm pretty sure that Epstein and his ilk pose a real threat to *my* mental health.

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                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                    Speaking as a parent my current opinion on internet age verification laws is that after the state starts putting the Epstein class in prison en masse then maybe we can start taking anything else they say about protecting children seriously.

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                    @mhoye Seeeriously. I consider unaccountable superrich predators who run sex & snuff trafficking rings without fear to be a far greater threat to my child than (checks) web browsing.

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                    • schouten_b@mastodon.socialS schouten_b@mastodon.social

                      @mhoye (To be clear, I'm not sure age verification laws are the solution here.

                      I strongly suspect social media are just as bad for mental health in adults, they just take longer to really have a measurable impact there.

                      I don't actually know what the solution to the problem is. But I do think that it's important to acknowledge the body of evidence that social media, unlike the Epsteins of this world, poses a unique, unprecedented threat to mental health.)

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                      #10

                      @Schouten_B @mhoye are there actually any studies that establish a causal relationship between internet access and worsening mental health? Afaik the direction is the opposite, mental health issues shape internet usage

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