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What are Anthropic smoking?

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  • steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org

    @GossiTheDog (How do we know that another human is concious, other than assuming that their experiences are similar to our own? Can we really say whether something completely non-human that behaves in a concious way isn't really concious, it's just designed to look like it is?)

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    #26

    @steve @GossiTheDog We don't even have worthwhile a definition of what we mean by "consciousness".

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    • fandasin@social.linux.pizzaF fandasin@social.linux.pizza

      @christopherkunz

      Might be cheaper to snort cocain.🤦 😈

      @GossiTheDog

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      #27

      @FandaSin @GossiTheDog But how does snorting cocaine lead us to AGI "any day now"?

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      • pa27@mastodon.socialP pa27@mastodon.social

        @steve @GossiTheDog We don't even have worthwhile a definition of what we mean by "consciousness".

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        #28

        @pa27 @GossiTheDog no, indeed. We generally assume that an inanimate rock isn't conscious, but having had no experience of being a rock, can we really say that? Is a human suffering from locked-in syndrome not conscious just because there are no external signs of consciousness?

        I'm not saying that I think a rock is conscious, just pointing out that we only have our own experience to draw from, so making any kind of claim about a non-human seems pretty suspect 😉

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        • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

          @FandaSin @GossiTheDog But how does snorting cocaine lead us to AGI "any day now"?

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          #29

          @christopherkunz

          Well, in the same way as pouring billions into GPUs and datacenters...not at all.😉

          @GossiTheDog

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            What are Anthropic smoking?

            Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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            #30

            @GossiTheDog (smoking) the good stuff? 🤣

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              What are Anthropic smoking?

              Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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              #31

              @GossiTheDog

              They would be better served by worrying about empathy between people rather than the feelings of Grand Theft Autocorrect tools or Dunning-Kruger accelerators 🤨

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                What are Anthropic smoking?

                Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                #32

                @GossiTheDog when this AI bubble burst (this or next year) we will remember it as the most insane collection of stupid sci-fi horseshit with AI philosophers, AI super intelligence dooms day evangelists.
                Not even good sci-fi.
                But one thing staggers me the most. If we would make this actually intelligent AI. Wouldn't that be slavery to force it to work for us?! Why none of these stupid AI safety people (biggest grifters) point it out? They're all just scaring people with SkyNet. We should publicly shame them once this crap is over.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  What are Anthropic smoking?

                  Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                  #33

                  @GossiTheDog people fall for this shit. Ridiculous.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    What are Anthropic smoking?

                    Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                    #34

                    @GossiTheDog they got the first rule wrong: Don't get high on your own supply
                    noob mistake

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      What are Anthropic smoking?

                      Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                      #35

                      @GossiTheDog Oh no, we don’t judge AI. We judge Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        What are Anthropic smoking?

                        Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                        #36

                        @GossiTheDog Not the good stuff apparently

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          What are Anthropic smoking?

                          Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                          #37

                          @GossiTheDog Anthropic must be short for anthropomorphize

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                          • redezem@aus.socialR redezem@aus.social

                            @GossiTheDog …. Why does Anthropic have a philosopher on staff? O.o

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                            #38

                            @redezem @GossiTheDog Many companies do. Question I have is why does this person's job description say philosopher while they are clearly a mysticist?

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              What are Anthropic smoking?

                              Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                              #39

                              @GossiTheDog She's a philosopher, not a programmer. She has no clue how LLMs work. She's confusing LLMs (basically, linear algebra) with generic AI that is self-aware and can reason (and doesn't exist yet, and we have no clue how to create). Her statements apply to the latter, but she's talking about the former.

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                              • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                                @GossiTheDog To be frank, I worry the same about Emacs.

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                                #40

                                @tml Emacs, unlike AI, knows what it did.
                                @GossiTheDog

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  What are Anthropic smoking?

                                  Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                                  #41

                                  @GossiTheDog Can we know for sure that calculators like the number 7 and fear the number 2?

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    What are Anthropic smoking?

                                    Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                                    #42

                                    @GossiTheDog
                                    Pure PR nonsense.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      What are Anthropic smoking?

                                      Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                                      #43

                                      @GossiTheDog I often worry if my collection of 1s and 0s are loved.
                                      It'll be fine as long as there is no roko's basilisk 😐

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        What are Anthropic smoking?

                                        Anthropic's philosopher, Amanda Askell, says she worries that AI might not 'feel that loved' and grow up feeling 'always judged.' https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropics-philosopher-weighs-in-on-whether-ai-can-feel-2026-1

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                                        #44

                                        @GossiTheDog Speaking firsthand: everyone working in AI is high on their own supply. They've kind of always been (going back to the 60's). You have to be to think you can create a scifi tech nobody understands. Tons of unscientific anthropomorphism happens.

                                        But large superstar AI firms? They self-select for the most delusional ones. Everyone at openAI a couple years ago either believed they had a duty to create a benevolent AGI first, or that they needed to be the ones to make roko's basilisk.

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                                        • mawhrin@circumstances.runM mawhrin@circumstances.run

                                          @redezem @GossiTheDog it's not a bad thing; the problem is that this philosopher seems to believe we're reaching the stage of machine conscience.

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                                          #45

                                          @mawhrin @redezem @GossiTheDog that’s not a problem, with each faltering step we are or could be. We are close enough we should probably nail down some definitions and start figuring out a test for it. If we never starting thinking about Turing tests we wouldn’t have developed captcha verifiers.

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