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  • signalapp@mastodon.worldS signalapp@mastodon.world

    For the time being, please stay vigilant against phishing and account takeover attempts. Remember that no one from Signal Support will ever send you a message request or ask for your registration verification code or Signal PIN. For an added layer of protection, you can enable Registration Lock in your Signal Settings (Account -> Registration Lock). 8/

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    #12

    @signalapp What credentials? not just a phone number presumably.

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    • signalapp@mastodon.worldS signalapp@mastodon.world

      A response to recent reporting in Germany, in service of clarity and accountability:

      First, it’s important to be precise when it comes to critical infrastructure like Signal. Signal was not “hacked” — in that our encryption, infrastructure, and the integrity of the app’s code was not compromised. 1/

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      #13

      @signalapp As you allude to, there has been a lot of misleading reporting about Signal being “hacked.” However, one substantial issue is worth mentioning: Signal asks users to enter their PIN from time to time. This can be switched off in the settings, but most users probably leave it enabled.

      So while this is not Signal *Support* asking for your PIN, it is the Signal *App* asking. Less technically minded users may not clearly understand the difference.

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      • drjlecter@beige.partyD drjlecter@beige.party

        @signalapp it's hilarious how it gets framed as a hack when it's just the incompetence of a politician who was warned REPEATEDLY that this specific phishing attack is targeting high profile politicians and STILL fell for it ☠️🤦🏻‍♂

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        #14

        @DrJLecter @signalapp

        And those are the same people who decide about the deployment of shit like Palantir into our infrastructure.

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        • signalapp@mastodon.worldS signalapp@mastodon.world

          For the time being, please stay vigilant against phishing and account takeover attempts. Remember that no one from Signal Support will ever send you a message request or ask for your registration verification code or Signal PIN. For an added layer of protection, you can enable Registration Lock in your Signal Settings (Account -> Registration Lock). 8/

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          #15

          @signalapp So, the Verify Your Pin so you don't forget it message I got few weeks ago is as bogus as I thought it was? Dumb question, but can I click on the message so I can remove it?

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          • signalapp@mastodon.worldS signalapp@mastodon.world

            For the time being, please stay vigilant against phishing and account takeover attempts. Remember that no one from Signal Support will ever send you a message request or ask for your registration verification code or Signal PIN. For an added layer of protection, you can enable Registration Lock in your Signal Settings (Account -> Registration Lock). 8/

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            #16

            @signalapp thanks for sharing this. This could have been a blog 😉

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            • signalapp@mastodon.worldS signalapp@mastodon.world

              A response to recent reporting in Germany, in service of clarity and accountability:

              First, it’s important to be precise when it comes to critical infrastructure like Signal. Signal was not “hacked” — in that our encryption, infrastructure, and the integrity of the app’s code was not compromised. 1/

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              #17

              @signalapp appreciate the effort to combat scams!

              social engineering will unfortunately always exist in some capacity but that reporting is particularly sloppy, framing a phishing campaign as compromised encryption

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              • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                @signalapp What credentials? not just a phone number presumably.

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                #18

                @jtb Read the thread 👍

                @signalapp

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                • mfennvt@mastodon.worldM mfennvt@mastodon.world

                  @signalapp So, the Verify Your Pin so you don't forget it message I got few weeks ago is as bogus as I thought it was? Dumb question, but can I click on the message so I can remove it?

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                  #19

                  @signalapp in "Settings" -> "Account": "PIN reminders"

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                  • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

                    @jtb Read the thread 👍

                    @signalapp

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                    #20

                    @davep @signalapp If they handed over verification code and pin then they would have to be seriously daft.

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                    • signalapp@mastodon.worldS signalapp@mastodon.world

                      A response to recent reporting in Germany, in service of clarity and accountability:

                      First, it’s important to be precise when it comes to critical infrastructure like Signal. Signal was not “hacked” — in that our encryption, infrastructure, and the integrity of the app’s code was not compromised. 1/

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                      #21

                      @signalapp das Internet ist für uns alle Neuland…

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                      • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                        @davep @signalapp If they handed over verification code and pin then they would have to be seriously daft.

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                        #22

                        @jtb It's how phishing / social engineering works. Not everyone is as clever as you.

                        @signalapp

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                        • chantology@mastodon.gamedev.placeC chantology@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @signalapp German politicians are not that much used to technology ^^

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                          #23

                          @Chantology @signalapp

                          Most people are not that much used to technology ^^

                          They're not like us.
                          😉

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                          • mfennvt@mastodon.worldM mfennvt@mastodon.world

                            @signalapp So, the Verify Your Pin so you don't forget it message I got few weeks ago is as bogus as I thought it was? Dumb question, but can I click on the message so I can remove it?

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                            #24

                            @MFennVT @signalapp
                            if it was a signal message coming from another signal account in a *chat*, it is not real.
                            But it was probably not a message but a banner in the list of your chats, which is real, doesn't look like a chat and exists to make sure users don't forget their pin, as they cannot reset it without data loss when it is needed.
                            You can deactivate pin reminders, see here
                            https://support.signal.org/hc/de/articles/360007059792-Signal-PIN#pin_reminders

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                            • brynawel@mastodon.socialB brynawel@mastodon.social

                              @DrJLecter @signalapp

                              And those are the same people who decide about the deployment of shit like Palantir into our infrastructure.

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                              #25

                              @Brynawel don't we all feel safe now 😬💀 @signalapp

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                              • signalapp@mastodon.worldS signalapp@mastodon.world

                                For the time being, please stay vigilant against phishing and account takeover attempts. Remember that no one from Signal Support will ever send you a message request or ask for your registration verification code or Signal PIN. For an added layer of protection, you can enable Registration Lock in your Signal Settings (Account -> Registration Lock). 8/

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                                #26

                                @signalapp clicking “Account” leaves only one choice: “delete all data.” Is Signal on IOS different from the version you are using?

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                                • mfennvt@mastodon.worldM mfennvt@mastodon.world

                                  @signalapp So, the Verify Your Pin so you don't forget it message I got few weeks ago is as bogus as I thought it was? Dumb question, but can I click on the message so I can remove it?

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                                  #27

                                  @MFennVT@mastodon.world @signalapp@mastodon.world The Signal app does have a legitimate prompt with wording like this. But it shows up at the bottom of your screen in the main interface. See the attached screenshot.

                                  If you received such a message as
                                  a Signal message, then it is indeed bogus and you should block the contact that sent it. Signal Support will never ask you for your PIN. It should only be entered if the app itself prompts you directly, never in a chat.

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                                  • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

                                    @jtb It's how phishing / social engineering works. Not everyone is as clever as you.

                                    @signalapp

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                                    #28

                                    @davep @jtb @signalapp Also, everyone who thinks they can't be fooled by social engineering is very susceptible to social engineering. Which is why it is very important for a cryptographic system to try to guard against these types of attack as much as they can.

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                                    • signalapp@mastodon.worldS signalapp@mastodon.world

                                      However, sophisticated attackers have engaged in a harmful phishing campaign, posing as “Signal Support” by changing their profile display name and using social engineering to trick people into handing over their credentials — information that allowed these attackers to take over some targeted Signal accounts. This is something that plagues any mainstream messaging app once it reaches the scale of Signal, but we know how high the stakes are given the trust people place in us. 2/

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                                      #29

                                      @signalapp you can't secure stupid.

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                                      • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

                                        @davep @jtb @signalapp Also, everyone who thinks they can't be fooled by social engineering is very susceptible to social engineering. Which is why it is very important for a cryptographic system to try to guard against these types of attack as much as they can.

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                                        #30

                                        @ahltorp @jtb @signalapp Indeed

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                                        • chantology@mastodon.gamedev.placeC chantology@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @signalapp German politicians are not that much used to technology ^^

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                                          #31

                                          @Chantology @signalapp immer no Neuland

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